George Lloyd

[Maestro267]

The Symphonic Mass is one of my favourite works of Lloyd's as well. Sometimes it is my favourite. The climax to the Sanctus is absolutely stunning!

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

I just listened. Yes, a very inspired piece. I don't know what I missed the first time... Now it spoke to me much more strongly. As a Catholic convert (2014) who sings in a choir during Mass (we sing works by Haydn, Mozart, Gounod, Bruckner and others), it was wonderful to hear what Lloyd does with words I know so well (although, since Vatican II, we don't sing the Credo anymore, which is a pity). Lloyd's Credo is tremendous, especially the passage dealing with the Incarnation. The Credo and the Sanctus are the high points for me, too. Great music!

[relm1]

I just listened. Yes, a very inspired piece. I don't know what I missed the first time... Now it spoke to me much more strongly. As a Catholic convert (2014) who sings in a choir during Mass (we sing works by Haydn, Mozart, Gounod, Bruckner and others), it was wonderful to hear what Lloyd does with words I know so well (although, since Vatican II, we don't sing the Credo anymore, which is a pity). Lloyd's Credo is tremendous, especially the passage dealing with the Incarnation. The Credo and the Sanctus are the high points for me, too. Great music!

Why was the credo dropped?

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

Why was the credo dropped?

They wanted everyone to be involved in the profession of faith. So they dropped the Credo movements from the masses and let everyone say the Credo (or sing it from a hymnal). In the Requiem they scrapped the Dies Irae (people don't like Hell much, or mentioning God's wrath).

[kyjo]

Great to see some other admirers of the magnificent Symphonic Mass! It's a work that's had such a great impact on me.

[relm1]

They wanted everyone to be involved in the profession of faith. So they dropped the Credo movements from the masses and let everyone say the Credo (or sing it from a hymnal). In the Requiem they scrapped the Dies Irae (people don't like Hell much, or mentioning God's wrath).

But the credo and Dies Irae are some of the best sources for music!

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

But the credo and Dies Irae are some of the best sources for music!

I know. Our choir knows... But that's Vatican II for you.

[vandermolen]

I know. Our choir knows... But that's Vatican II for you.

Your inbox is full Johan. Happy Birthday! 

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

Your inbox is full Johan. Happy Birthday! 

Thanks!


I know... But to get to my Inbox I have to subscribe again. I'll have a think.

[Symphonic Addict]

Happy birthday, Mr. Herrenberg! Good to see someone else listening to Langgaard, Graener, Juon and Bruckner currently.

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

Happy birthday, Mr. Herrenberg! Good to see someone else listening to Langgaard, Graener, Juon and Bruckner currently.

Thank you! And well-spotted! Paul Graener, especially, was really a great find. His Symphony in D minor, Turmwächterlied, and Symphonietta, are all strongly recommended. If history hadn't tainted his name, these works would be on the repertoire.

[Symphonic Addict]

Has anyone ever heard The Vigil of Venus? I'm curious about this work.

[Maestro267]

It's not on masterpiece level like the Symphonic Mass.

[relm1]

Has anyone ever heard The Vigil of Venus? I'm curious about this work.

I like it.  Found it quasi-operatic.  I also prefer Symphonic Mass but remember enjoying it.

[Symphonic Addict]

Thanks for the comments. Yet another work on the pile to investigate.

[Albion]

When will Albany have the sense to issue all of their George Lloyd recordings in a single affordable box? This policy would make it a mandatory purchase. I see that "Iernin" is now $51! They should just shove it all together, coupling works to save on the number of discs, and flog it far and wide...

 

[foxandpeng]

I have always been captivated by the works of George Lloyd. His compositions are a true testament to his talent and his unique approach to orchestration and melody.

What sets Lloyd apart from other composers of his time is his ability to fuse the traditional forms of classical music with modern and contemporary techniques. His works are a perfect blend of old and new, creating a sound that is both familiar and fresh at the same time.

I first discovered Lloyd's music when I was a student of music theory, and I was immediately drawn to his works. I was impressed by the complexity and depth of his compositions, as well as his ability to create intricate and emotive melodies that stayed with me long after I had listened to them.

As I delved deeper into his music, I began to appreciate the various influences that had shaped his style. Lloyd's time spent in the army during World War II, for instance, had a significant impact on his work, as did his experiences living in rural England. These influences are evident in his compositions, which often feature military-inspired rhythms and folk-like melodies.

Despite his many achievements, Lloyd's music is unfortunately not as well-known as that of his contemporaries. This is a great shame, as I believe that his work is some of the most innovative and exciting to come out of the classical music world in the 20th century.

For those who have not yet discovered George Lloyd, I highly recommend giving his music a listen. His works are sure to leave a lasting impression and will undoubtedly change the way you think about classical music.

Very much agreed. Lloyd is greatly appreciated by many here, and his symphonies are a grand addition to the British symphonic tradition. I really like him very much.

Welcome to the forum, because we've not said hello before 😁

[Albion]

When will Albany have the sense to issue all of their George Lloyd recordings in a single affordable box? This policy would make it a mandatory purchase. I see that "Iernin" is now $51! They should just shove it all together, coupling works to save on the number of discs, and flog it far and wide...

 

I have just received a very positive email reply from Albany, to the effect that they have now reached an agreement with Lyrita to repackage and re-release their George Lloyd recordings...

 

...also, new recordings are mentioned.

[foxandpeng]

I have just received a very positive email reply from Albany, to the effect that they have now reached an agreement with Lyrita to repackage and re-release their George Lloyd recordings...

 

...also, new recordings are mentioned.

That is excellent news. Hearing Symphonies 4, 6 and 7 has been great today, and makes me keen to visit his whole non-operatic oeuvre.

[Albion]

Although "Iernin" and "John Socman" have both been broadcast and are available in some form or another what we really need now is "The Serf". There is absolutely NO excuse for this composer to be neglected, so hopefully the conjunction of Albany and Lyrita may present some good results...