Neurotyping system

[Mahlerian]

Cool. I don't think it's trying to prove anything, just trying to give people an idea of where they may fall on the chart.

And the chart itself is probably best understood using examples and archetypes to back up the concepts. So in the subreddit there are a lot of posts of examples, so it's something someone compare themselves to- like, oh, my thought process might be similar to that person or character since we are in the same area of the chart.

I just think that the test is a little short; that said, it's probably about accurate that I prefer lateral over linear thinking, but can work with either comfortably.

[greg]

I just think that the test is a little short; that said, it's probably about accurate that I prefer lateral over linear thinking, but can work with either comfortably.

So does Henk, as you can see. 😎

Maybe short has its advantages? Rather than being lost in the details with overly specific details for a broad concept?...

Thought and memories should probably be swapped in the scheme. A mammal has no memory but does think.

But a nice scheme.

No idea what you mean by "no memory"...  Especially since you need memory to form habits and remember stuff like your home or your parents, which mammals do remember.

'Become who you are' can be called a concept. A concept is a 'power of becoming'. (Deleuze)

And according to Nietzsche we need to study physics to as well prescribe for us the law to become who you are.

That's something Deleuze doesn't know about it seems to me and why I feel closer to Nietzsche.

I feel like the meaning in this is really obscured by semantics/word choice. Like there shouldn't be a difference between "become who you are" and "become who you want to be."

[Henk]

Memory in the meaning of remembrances, nostalgia and such. Memories in the sense of thinking about past happenings. Mourning and rejoicing for example.
And a lizard also has memory in the sense you describe.

Become who you are and become who you want to be. Ok, could be semantics, but they don't lead to the same thing. Huge huge importancy in word choice. 

[Henk]

Just take into account that we have a different background. America and Europe are not the same.
Also you are a computer scientist, if I can call you so, so that could explain your different meaning of memory.

[Henk]

The scheme just needs improvement if you ask me. I understand it, but the brain is far more complex in reality.

But it may also depend on what would be the purpose of the scheme.

[Henk]

Memory in the meaning of remembrances, nostalgia and such. Memories in the sense of thinking about past happenings. Mourning and rejoicing for example.
And a lizard also has memory in the sense you describe.

Become who you are and become who you want to be. Ok, could be semantics, but they don't lead to the same thing. Huge huge importancy in word choice. 

To be honest and more clear:
Become who you are means to myself: become a thinker on morality and stuff and a poet as well
Become who you want to be would be more Deleuzian: Anti-Oedipus. But that feels also like losing myself so I read that book at the moment to see if I can follow it.
And what I am is an artist.

[Henk]

I feel like the meaning in this is really obscured by semantics/word choice. Like there shouldn't be a difference between "become who you are" and "become who you want to be."

That seems true to me. Shouldn't be.

[Henk]

You can't choose always how you want to live. Living is becoming. Becoming is about power. You can 'become who you are' and then all is well.

This falls short.

[greg]

I wonder how accurate these are...

since in the political compass quizzes I do test a bit towards lib left, and I also test as primarily auditory learner (which matches my top-right "newtype" typing).

Would be nice if there were scientific studies done on all of these concepts, trying to relate them together to create some sort of system. It could turn psychology into a more respectable and developed field.

[greg]

link for enlarged image:
https://external-preview.redd.it/qlJh8f-MBY9S0p3BSojNOzF5pp6MLKO-bwB0LcGwerA.png?auto=webp&s=e82458a1f50663ae0d69bfcfe2eb54aef2bcce00


This is good one, veerry nice. 

This is supposed to be about what type of gamer you are.

Explorer first does align with me being newtype. I can imagine some overlap with real life as well. I love traveling solo, for example, so that would fit.

IMO You can order the rest as well... I'd say for me:
Explorer->Achiever->Killer->Socializer




Updated characters chart:
https://i.redd.it/zm299ne06cx41.png


So basically I'm exactly where they put Shinji Ikari (from Neon Genesis Evangelion). 
Even IQ and temperament are the same...



I think Elon Musk might actually be the real life Senku (from Dr. Stone- see above character chart). IQ's probably match and they are about in the same place where I'd put them. Their overall approach is pretty much developing the world through science. Basically you can think of Senku as an anime shounen protagonist version of Elon Musk.

Originally I'd have put him at the extreme left of lexical thinking, but after listening to his newest interview, he mentioned the problem of language being inaccurate to describe thought (which is what he wants neuralink to capture). So I thought recognizing that problem exists alone should put him a bit more to the right, though overall I think he is a very lexical thinker, just not 100%.

[greg]

IMO You can order the rest as well... I'd say for me:
Explorer->Achiever->Killer->Socializer

My guess was correct. It's called the Bartle test, you can take it here:
https://matthewbarr.co.uk/bartle/

The Bartle Test of Gamer Psychology
You are 80% Explorer
What Bartle says:

♠ Explorers delight in having the game expose its internal machinations to them. They try progressively esoteric actions in wild, out-of-the-way places, looking for interesting features (ie. bugs) and figuring out how things work. Scoring points may be necessary to enter some next phase of exploration, but it's tedious, and anyone with half a brain can do it. Killing is quicker, and might be a constructive exercise in its own right, but it causes too much hassle in the long run if the deceased return to seek retribution. Socialising can be informative as a source of new ideas to try out, but most of what people say is irrelevant or old hat. The real fun comes only from discovery, and making the most complete set of maps in existence.
You are also:

73% Achiever
27% Killer
20% Socialiser
This result may be abbreviated as EAKS

[greg]

Probably no one is reading this thread, but a post on the subreddit caught my attention:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Neurotyping/comments/gs7o9u/impressionismlaterality_symmetry_the_ivp_a/

It basically tries to draw some lifespan of how new ideas are conceived and transformed throughout society based on different people from this system.

[greg]

Possibly the quickest way to understand the system lol. Everyone knows these characters/real people.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Neurotyping/comments/gsewcr/neurotype_chart_normie_edition_show_this_to_your/

[greg]

[greg]

Crime as neurotypes:



Huh, guess my crime is Terrorism. And second most likely being a tie between Cult Leader/School Shooter/Arsonist. 

Of course probably most of those are debatable in positioning, but the top left and bottom right seem the most obviously correct.

[drogulus]

     My concern is with what I call CSA, which I just made up, a term for conscious self awareness.

     If you asked most people, they would say they have CSA, though they don't necessarily broadcast their opinion about it. I find the concept more slippery than it's usually taken to be, when people take it to be at all. I find it hard to identify the elements of CSA very far from the opinion that you are experiencing it, or have done in the past.

     Another thing about CSA is it seems to have arrived fairly recently in human history, or perhaps just prior to human history, which seems to require CSA to get off the ground.

[greg]

     My concern is with what I call CSA, which I just made up, a term for conscious self awareness.

     If you asked most people, they would say they have CSA, though they don't necessarily broadcast their opinion about it. I find the concept more slippery than it's usually taken to be, when people take it to be at all. I find it hard to identify the elements of CSA very far from the opinion that you are experiencing it, or have done in the past.

     Another thing about CSA is it seems to have arrived fairly recently in human history, or perhaps just prior to human history, which seems to require CSA to get off the ground.

Which parts of the brain are involved in CSA? Any neuroscience background by chance? Frontal lobe maybe?

[drogulus]

Which parts of the brain are involved in CSA? Any neuroscience background by chance? Frontal lobe maybe?

     Yes, it's purely by chance. CSA is kind of a committee of the whole. It's stuff that's widely shared by many subsystems, kind of a network phenomenon. I think of it not as a "me" thinking my thoughts, but as the committee voting on the thoughts that think "me". But an extras ingredient is needed to produce the kind of CSA people have when they are having it, and that is the set of ideas about the self that have developed during the past 3,000 years. It's not that old fashioned people thought they didn't have CSA, but that it hadn't occurred to them that they did have it.

[greg]

It looks like I never added the new version of the quiz for this! (it's better and more polished than the old one)

http://neurotypology.gq/Test/


There are two version of the test which are nearly identical but provide different wording. I recommend test #1 because it includes the "neutral" options for selection.

My results on test #1:



My results on test #2:

[greg]

Here is a sort of flipping of the chart





I have yet to make an image of this, but I pictured (as these assessments seem to be widely agreed on):

Extreme versions of each:

Artificial- Mark Zuckerberg
Natural- Donald Trump
Chaos- Kanye West
Order- Dwight Schrute (from The Office)





(this sort of flipping is similar to my "diagonal" interpretation of the political compass, I guess flipping it is also another option)