Is Giacinto Scelsi the darkest composer of all time, I think so! & love is work

[Carlo Gesualdo]

Giacinto Scelsi a record breaker when it come to dark pitch dark composition, look uaxuctum or the brillant natura renovatur (my favorite).

I defy you  to find me darker composer than Scelsi, he unmatched, perhaps except Olivier Messiaen and Turangalila symphony or quartet for the end of time, that spooky as hell for me, perhaps I'm a chicken wuss lol.

In the history of 20 century whom wrote the utter darkest  music, more so than Scelsi, try me, I'm ready and strapping my seat belt?



What so dark it's  scarred ya to death  until this day, music not for the fainted heart and sensitive christian or believer, a composer whom is one whit satan...

Impress me folks, try you're best shot,, what is made in the heaten of hell inferno, in the depth of the abyss of flame.



p..s  I like crypto satanic stuff and music AND mostly music one whit god too , I know I,m strange , but life is stranger than fiction. And that it folks...

[Mandryka]

Try J S Bach Aus tiefer Noth schrei ich zu dir BWV 686; Hughes Dufourt's L'Afrique d'après Tiepolo and La Maison du Sourd; Morton Feldman For Samuel Beckett and Piano Violin Viola Cello.; Richard Barrett Ne Songe Plus à Fuire ; Kaija Saariaho Petals and Près ; Horacio Radulescu Occult Pulses ; Iancu Dumitrescu Medium II.

Et j'en passe.

[steve ridgway]

I don't really find Scelsi dark, rather sublime and awe inspiring. I think God would like it 0:).

[vers la flamme]

Never thought about it like that, but Scelsi's music is quite dark. Darkest of all time? I don't think it's possible for one composer to claim that title.

[Mandryka]

What about Chopin's funeral march? Or indeed Siegfried's?  Or maybe this

[pjme]

  You must be joking!

[Mandryka]

How about this then, Munch playing Honneger Symphonie Liturgique

https://www.youtube.com/v/k3WicjLqccc

[pjme]

That is a very fine, deeply felt war symphony, but it hardly hurdles one "into the depth of the abyss of flame".

De profundis expects "crypto satanic stuff" and, alas, I cannot give that to him. Strange that he thinks that Turangalila is spooky, as it is a huge "chant d'amour", a lovesong.
Anyway, for me hell is the "booming" dance music, the repetitive stuff with suffocatingly deep bass drones that invade one's brain and body.
There's very little music (as in "classical music") that conjures up evil. Sounds (and visions) can be scary.
Most dark music I find sad, bitter, gloomy.... The devil has no music. He stinks.

[amw]

Trevor Wishart's Red Bird but that might be cheating.

Also Maja SK Ratkje Voice and Jennifer Walshe [your name here] and Roberto Gerhard The Plague etc.

I think music for me usually requires the human voice in order to be "dark" or "scary" tbh. I don't find Scelsi particularly dark, except for certain pieces (often with voice eg Uaxuctum), and even then his music develops into a wide range of colours and timbres that prevent it from having a single overwhelming sense of feeling.

[Mandryka]

Trevor Wishart's Red Bird but that might be cheating.

You're going to think I'm a complete nut case, but I think Red Bird is funny!

[some guy]

I think adjectives like "dark" are inappropriate if applied to music, even if by "dark" one simply means the physical opposite of "light." And in that regard, I'd like to point out that physical darkness can be described as "soft" and "comforting." It's certainly true that it's easier to fall asleep in the dark than it is to fall asleep with all the lights on.

Having said that, I have to say that I really liked this remark: "a wide range of colours and timbres."

Yeah. Come on! Let's not over-simplify to the point of ridiculosity.