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Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« on: May 08, 2020, 11:10:50 PM »
To define subject of this thread: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings — Woodwind Instrument(s) combined with String Instrument(s) or String Ensemble (String Trio, String Quartet, etc.).

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Wind-dedicated threads on this forum (two tiny threads of single specific pieces are not listed).

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Let me start from posting of my playlist of Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings. Actually it is contents of my five playlists, combined, ordered by composer and all movements entries are combined in just piece name. Major keys are marked by single big letter at end (with flat if needed). No performer names (yes, it is sad point). 99 quartets, 35 quintets, 2 Sextets, 2 Septets, 1 Octet, 1 Nonet sums to 140 pieces and 41+ hours (41:22:29). I'd listened to them all many times. While collecting (~2 years ago) this playlist many times was considerably reconstructed: some pieces and even entire subdivisions such as Trios and Sonatas were deleted as not suitable for me (maybe wrong decision) and some pieces were added. This playlist version is stable for year or so. Yes, some significant names (e.g. Boccherini, and others) and notable pieces (e.g. Spohr's famous ones) are omitted; initially they all were in my playlists but by listening to them many times I noted that I want to skip them. So it is just playlist of my personal tastes for this time. Anyway I hope it can be useful at least as starting point for beginner listener. I hope also that pieces from this list can be found in YouTube.

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Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings (140 pieces)

Woodwind \ Chamber \ Quartets (99)

Bach JC Flute Quartet Op 19 No 1 C
Bach JC Flute Quartet Op 19 No 2 D
Bach JC Flute Quartet Op 19 No 3 G
Bach JC Flute Quartet Op 19 No 4 C
Bach JC Flute Quartet W B58 C
Bach JC Oboe Quartet W B60 B flat
Campagnoli B Six Flute Quartets
Cartellieri AC Clarinet Quartets Nos 2 1 4
Cartellieri AC Clarinet Quartets Nos 3 B flat
Crusell BH Clarinet Quartet No 1 Op 2 E flat
Crusell BH Clarinet Quartet No 2 Op 4 c minor
Crusell BH Clarinet Quartet No 3 Op 7 D
Crusell BH Flute Quartet Op 4 c minor (Arr from Clarinet)
Crusell BH Flute Quartet Op 8 D
Devienne F Flute Quartet Op 16 No 3 b minor
Devienne F Flute Quartet Op 16 No 5 G
Devienne F Flute Quartet Op 66 No 1 a minor
Devienne F Flute Quartet Op 66 No 2 D
Devienne F Flute Quartet Op 66 No 3 C
Devienne F Flute Quatuor Concertante G
Dotzauer F Flute Quartet No 3 Op 57 E
Dotzauer F Flute Quartet Op 38 a minor
Dotzauer F Oboe Quartet Op 37 F
Eichner Flute Quartet Op 4 No 1 D
Eichner Flute Quartet Op 4 No 2 G
Eichner Flute Quartet Op 4 No 3 d minor
Eichner Flute Quartet Op 4 No 4 D
Eichner Flute Quartet Op 4 No 5 C
Eichner Flute Quartet Op 4 No 6 g minor
Fiala Oboe Quartet E flat
Fiala Oboe Quartet F
Fiorillo F Six Flute Quartets Op 4 (1780)
Graf FH Flute Quartet No 1 G
Graf FH Flute Quartet No 2 B flat
Graf FH Flute Quartet No 3 D
Graf FH Flute Quartet No 4 A
Graf FH Flute Quartet No 5 C
Graf FH Flute Quartet No 6 G
Krommer Clarinet Quartet Op 21 No 1 E flat
Krommer Clarinet Quartet Op 21 No 2 B flat
Krommer Clarinet Quartet Op 69 E flat
Krommer Clarinet Quartet Op 82 D
Krommer Clarinet Quartet Op 83 B flat
Krommer Clarinet Quartet Op posth B flat
Krommer F Flute Quartet Op 13 D
Krommer F Oboe Quartet No 3 F
Krommer Flute Quartet D Op 93
Krommer Flute Quartet F Op 17
Krommer Flute Quartet G Op 92
Krommer Flute Quartet Op 75 F
Krommer Flute Quartet Op 90 C
Krommer Oboe Quartet No 1 C
Krommer Oboe Quartet No 2 F
Lefevre JX Clarinet Quartet No 1 E flat
Lefevre JX Clarinet Quartet No 2 B flat
Lefevre JX Clarinet Quartet No 3 C
Lefevre JX Clarinet Quartet No 4 c minor
Lefevre JX Clarinet Quartet No 5 E flat
Lefevre JX Clarinet Quartet No 6 B flat
Mercadante Flute Quartet A Major
Mercadante Flute Quartet a minor
Mercadante Flute Quartet C Major
Mercadante Flute Quartet e minor
Mozart Clarinet Quartet K 370 F (Arr from Oboe)
Muller I Clarinet Quartet No 1 B flat
Muller I Clarinet Quartet No 2 e minor
Paisiello G Six Flute Quartets Op 23
Ries Flute Quartet Op 145 No 1 C
Ries Flute Quartet Op 145 No 2 e minor
Ries Flute Quartet Op 145 No 3 A
Ries Flute Quartet WoO 35 No 1 d minor
Ries Flute Quartet WoO 35 No 2 G
Ries Flute Quartet WoO 35 No 3 a minor
Stamitz Clarinet Quartet Op 19 No 1 E flat
Stamitz Clarinet Quartet Op 19 No 2 B flat
Stamitz Clarinet Quartet Op 19 No 3 E flat
Stamitz Clarinet Quartet Op 8 No 4 E flat
Viotti GB Flute Quartet Op 22 No 1 B flat
Viotti GB Flute Quartet Op 22 No 2 c minor
Viotti GB Flute Quartet Op 22 No 3 E flat
Winter P Clarinet Quartet E (1780)

Woodwind \ Chamber \ Quintets (35)

Baermann H Clarinet Quintet No 3 Op 23 E flat
Beethoven Flute Quintet (Sonata 8 Op 30 No 3) G
Boccherini L Flute Quintet No 1 G 437 F
Boccherini L Flute Quintet No 2 G 438 G
Boccherini L Flute Quintet No 3 G 439 C
Boccherini L Flute Quintet No 4 G 440 F (Guidetti)
Boccherini L Flute Quintet No 5 G 441 G
Boccherini L Flute Quintet No 6 G 442 B flat
Cambini GM Flute Oboe Quintet 1 Op 8 No 1 G
Cambini GM Flute Oboe Quintet 2 Op 8 No 2 C
Cambini GM Flute Oboe Quintet 3 Op 8 No 3 B
Cambini GM Flute Oboe Quintet 4 Op 9 No 1 E
Cambini GM Flute Oboe Quintet 5 Op 9 No 2 F
Cambini GM Flute Oboe Quintet 6 Op 9 No 3 A
Kraus JM Flute Quintet Op 7 D
Krommer F Clarinet Quintet Op 95 B flat
Krommer Flute Quintet C Op 63
Krommer Flute Quintet D Op 49
Krommer Flute Quintet Op 55 e minor
Krommer Flute Quintet Op 58 C
Krommer Flute Quintet Op 66 E flat
Krommer Oboe Quintet VII-12 C
Krommer Oboe Quintet VII-13 E flat
Kuhlau Flute Quintet Op 51 No 1 D
Kuhlau Flute Quintet Op 51 No 2 E
Kuhlau Flute Quintet Op 51 No 3 A
Meyerbeer G Clarinet Quintet E flat (1813)
Neukomm SR Clarinet Quintet Op 8 B flat (c.1806)
Reicha A Clarinet Quintet Op 107 F
Reicha A Clarinet Quintet Op 89 B flat
Romberg AJ Flute Quintet Op 41 No 1 e minor
Romberg AJ Flute Quintet Op 41 No 2 D
Romberg AJ Flute Quintet Op 41 No 3 F
Sussmayr FX Flute Clarinet Quintet D
Sussmayr FX Flute Oboe Quintet D

Woodwind \ Chamber \ Sextets (2), Septets (2), Octet (1), Nonet (1)

Danzi F Sextet Op 15 E
Vranicky A Flute Oboe Sextet No 7 G
Blanc A Wind Septet Op 40 E (1860)
Winter P Wind Septet Op 10 (1800)
Reicha A Wind Octet Op 96 E flat (1807)
Lachner F Wind Nonet F (1820s-75)

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Re: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2020, 01:24:48 AM »
I'm considering buying the Membran 20 CD box, 'Musik aus Schlösser und Residenzen' myself, where some of the rather rare items and composer names appear, apparently in good performances
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/musik-aus-schloesser-und-residenzen/hnum/4251364

So far, there's a lot of that stuff I haven't heard, but for example Kuhlau's flute quintets are very good.

Your timeline stops around 1850; I'd include later works on my own list though (such as Nielsen's Wind Quintet, more clarinet quintets generally, flute trios ..) ... but there's a lot of attractive, somewhat classically balanced and bright music there.
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Re: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2020, 04:08:16 AM »
I'm considering buying the Membran 20 CD box, 'Musik aus Schlösser und Residenzen' myself, where some of the rather rare items and composer names appear, apparently in good performances.
Thank you, it is wonderful set.

So far, there's a lot of that stuff I haven't heard, but for example Kuhlau's flute quintets are very good.
Yes, these quintets are beautiful. I'll try to find them on YouTube, maybe I'll find those from my playlist.

Your timeline stops around 1850; I'd include later works on my own list though (such as Nielsen's Wind Quintet, more clarinet quintets generally, flute trios ..) ... but there's a lot of attractive, somewhat classically balanced and bright music there.
Thank you; yes, there are certain omissions in my playlist, it is just reflection of my tastes in this year or two.

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Crusell Clarinet Quartets — Laszlo Horvath & Trio Dumas

These Quartets are from my playlist, I've compared timings.
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Re: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2020, 04:29:18 AM »
Do you have any current 'favorites among the favorites' ? :)

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Re: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2020, 05:12:44 AM »
Do you have any current 'favorites among the favorites' ? :)

My first playlist (of five) starts with Six Flute Quartets by Friedrich Hartmann Grafmy all time favorite — very sadly these pieces are absent on YouTube from ~2018 (I regularly check for them).

Also I'm very fond of Eichner Flute Quartets Op. 4 and Cambini G.M. Flute Oboe Quintets Opp. 8 & 9 (both are at start of playlists).

Also I'm fond of Cartellieri A.C. Clarinet Quartets.

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I cannot find Kuhlau Flute Quintets Op. 51 from my playlist (by Toke Lund Christiansen, note that timing of 1st Mvt. of Op. 51/3 is 13:15).
There are two others: Ginevra Petrucci & Kodaly Quartet and Bjarne Boye Rasmussen, et al. (that Mvt. is 9:25 and 9:10).
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Re: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2020, 03:58:47 AM »
I forgot to say that about week ago I've included the following recording in my above playlist. And it is possible that Mercadante Quartets were present in my playlist earlier but were deleted later. So, it is kind of restoration (but I not remember exactly).



Saverio Mercadante (1795—1870) Flute Quartets — Andras Adorjan & Munich String Trio

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Re: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2020, 04:51:29 AM »
Granted, the only string here is a single double-bass:

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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2020, 05:01:17 AM »
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/d77jzEVcohA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/d77jzEVcohA</a>
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Re: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2020, 05:25:58 AM »
Carl Nielsen, "Serenata in vano" for Clarinet, Bassoon, Horn, Cello and Double Bass
L'Histoire du Soldat (Stravinsky) — Contemporary Chamber Players, Stony Brook University

Karl, thank you! And there are Brass instruments in both pieces if I properly detect them. (Maybe I should state more clearly in start post that this thread is meant to be dedicated to Woodwinds and Strings — only.)
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2020, 05:31:48 AM »
Karl, thank you! And there are Brass instruments in both pieces if I properly detect them. (Maybe I should state more clearly in start post that this thread is meant to be dedicated to Woodwinds and Strings — only.)

Ah, very good:

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Re: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2020, 06:01:35 AM »
Karl, thank you! And there is Piano.

...this thread is meant to be dedicated to Woodwinds and Strings — only.
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Re: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2020, 07:08:43 AM »
This  restriction is somewhat problematic because the most common septets through nonets from the early/mid 19th century usually have horn and sometimes piano in the mix. Because many of them follow the Beethoven septet. And "wind octets" usually always have horns as well, like Mozarts K 375 and 388.
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Re: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2020, 07:34:28 AM »
This  restriction is somewhat problematic because the most common septets through nonets from the early/mid 19th century usually have horn and sometimes piano in the mix. Because many of them follow the Beethoven septet. And "wind octets" usually always have horns as well, like Mozarts K 375 and 388.

It is just matter of categorization. In case of Piano & Wind (Woodwind or Brass) maybe more suited specifically dedicated thread, say, Chamber Music for Piano and Wind. In this case searching and finding by thread name will be more ease.
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Re: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2020, 02:45:39 AM »


Cambini G.M. Flute Oboe Quintets Opp. 8 & 9 — Accademia Classica di Venezia

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Re: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2020, 07:24:52 AM »
Sure, but I tend to think of "Winds" (e.g. Reicha's woodwind quintets) and "mixed" which would include any combination on winds/brass/strings (like Beethoven'S septet or Schubert's octet), even piano, e.g. Saint-Saens' Septet.
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Re: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2020, 07:43:33 AM »
Sure, but I tend to think of "Winds" (e.g. Reicha's woodwind quintets) and "mixed" which would include any combination on winds/brass/strings (like Beethoven'S septet or Schubert's octet), even piano, e.g. Saint-Saens' Septet.
Thread name Chamber Music is ideal for any combination. But in this case it would be just impossible to find some specific combination of interest.
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Re: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2020, 11:06:25 AM »
Of the strict wind + strings combination I am mostly interested in clarinet quartets/quintets (although there are a few of them with piano, e.g. two by Franz Schmidt).

Not too fond of the flute, I am afraid. There is a bunch of quintets op.11 by J. Chr. Bach for Oboe, Flute, Vl., Va and b.c. I prefer Mozart's oboe quartet to the flute quartets, the clarinet quintet is on another level. Also nice are the clarinet quartets arranged by someone else from Mozart violin sonatas.
Crusell's clarinet stuff is also pretty good, not sure I heard the Krommer, Stamitz, Lefevre (I have some clar. concerts by the first two.) Reicha is always good for winds, although he wrote more for wind quintet.
More clarinet quintets I have by Neukomm, of course the Weber, one by Romberg (op.57), Bärmann (op.23), Meyerbeer, two shorter Spohr pieces op.34+81, but admittedly I could not comment on them (except for the Weber) without listening again. In any case, I tend to prefer the (late) romantic and some early modern clarinet quintets: Brahms, Fuchs, Reger, Kornauth, Bliss... although I also like the late classical/early romantic stuff from the first great age of the clarinet ca. 1810-30.
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Re: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2020, 06:56:51 PM »
Jo498, thank you! I'm not too fond of Bassoon. Even more — when I just started to listen Classical Music I could not listen the whole class of Wind instruments. It was some turn (like switch inside me was triggered) several years ago when I started to listen Woodwind instruments. And I do remember that triggering recording — it was Haydn Divertimentos for Wind Instruments (Consortium Classicum).

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Ernst Eichner Flute Quartets Op. 4 — Jan De Winne & Il Gardellino

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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2020, 01:56:37 AM »
Jo498, thank you! I'm not too fond of Bassoon. Even more — when I just started to listen Classical Music I could not listen the whole class of Wind instruments. It was some turn (like switch inside me was triggered) several years ago when I started to listen Woodwind instruments. And I do remember that triggering recording — it was Haydn Divertimentos for Wind Instruments (Consortium Classicum).

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Ernst Eichner Flute Quartets Op. 4 — Jan De Winne & Il Gardellino

These Quartets are from my playlist, I've compared timings.

Heard some of this, and that's sweet, for sure.

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Re: Chamber Music for Woodwind and Strings
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2020, 11:41:49 AM »
Thank you, it is wonderful set (...)


Well, I decided to pull the trigger regarding the Membran box "Musik aus Schlösser und Residenzen" and it should arrive in late May. Found a cheap offer on Amazon.de & had a gift card too :)
It's not Earth-shattering music, but there's a lot of pleasant, lesser known 18-19th century composers plus music, especially for winds, that was once very popular.

Amazon.es has a specified track list with MP3 samples
https://www.amazon.es/Musik-aus-Schl%C3%B6sser-Residenzen-Various/dp/B01KBGTGOI/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_es_ES=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=musik+aus+schl%C3%B6sser+und+residenzen&qid=1589402571&sr=8-1

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