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Quote from: SimonNZ on August 05, 2020, 08:18:15 PM
Why do you feel Harris can't govern?

If you really are interested:

https://medium.com/@moon_bat/the-troubling-past-of-kamala-harris-f017207333cb

There is a reason why the left calls her Cop-mala Harris. Also, this tell everything about her integrity:

Summer 2019: "I was that girl!"
Summer 2020: "Please pick me as your VP!"

She could say she is not avalable for VP for Biden because she was that girl, but she hasn't, has she?
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SimonNZ

I didn't ask you and I don't respect your opinion on the subject.

And the "left" doesn't call her that. Only idiots who can't construct a portmanteau either correctly or wittily call her that.

Herman

Quote from: 71 dB on August 06, 2020, 03:09:49 AM
Also, this tell everything about her integrity:

Summer 2019: "I was that girl!"
Summer 2020: "Please pick me as your VP!"

She could say she is not available for VP for Biden because she was that girl, but she hasn't, has she?

If the idea was that the little girl on the bus was underrepresented, it makes 100% sense to say you want to be VP or in the cabinet.

If you want lilly white "integrity" you should not go into politics but rather stay at home.

71 dB

Quote from: Herman on August 05, 2020, 11:16:54 PM
Oh, Biden definitely needs to keep every single Bernie Bro and Sister on board, because he needs a landslide. Otherwise the vote goes to the SCOTUS.

At the moment Trump is doing a good job giving Biden a landslide victory...  :P

Quote from: arpeggio on August 06, 2020, 12:46:01 AM
I have been reviewing some of the conservative posts and they keep ignoring the fact that the modern conservative movement has been dominating the United States for twenty-five years.

For over 40 years the US politics has been dominated by oligarchs ever since Buckley v. Valeo, the landmark decision of the US Supreme Court on campaign finance (1976). Back then the Republicans used to be economically where the corporate Dems are today because the sick system has been pushing both parties to the right. Obama gave the people a Republican healthcare system from the 80's as a result of this.

Most of the ultra-rich people and corporations don't care about social issues. Do you think billionaires care at all regular people have abortions or not? No, they don't care at all! Issues such as abortion are to fool people to think they have a choice when they vote: Choice between socially liberal and socially conservative. In reality it doesn't matter much whether you vote for the Republicans or corporate Democrats. In both cases the Banks get bailed out, military budget gets increased etc. Both are easily bought to oppose medicare for all for example. The point is to have no real lefty party in power, one that would give medicare for all to the people and end the insurance company/Big Pharma price gouging mafia. Now people on the left are "forced" to vote for Biden to get rid of Trump, but Biden is a candidate who agrees about almost nothing with them! In blue states people can perhaps vote for Howie Hawkins, but what does it change? The crazy thing is if we go issue by issue Americans probably agree with Howie Hawkins more than Trump or Biden, but the rigged system makes sure Howie Hawkins doesn't have a chance in hell. Economically the Republicans and corporate Democratc offer a little bit different degrees of "Corporate socialism for the rich, rugged individualism for regular people".


Quote from: arpeggio on August 06, 2020, 12:46:01 AMThere has been no effort to try the control gun violence.  Unions have been effectively neutered.  Most efforts to control climate change has been shot down.  At the most progressives only make up 25% of the electorate.  The Affordable Care Act and Roe v Wade is under attack and could be overturned by the Supreme Court.  There are conservatives who are trying to dismantle the United States Postal Service and Social Security.  Since we have not been in charge for two decades I have problems with understanding how our policies are responsible for the mess we are in.

NRA has bought the Republican party completely so all they need is to have some Democrats on their side to stop gun regulation despite over 90 % of Americans supporting at least some gun regulation legistlation. In oligarchy unions are the first to be destroyed. At least Biden would bring the US back to the Paris climate agreement. It has been a long long time since the US politics has been progressive. FDR? Maybe there was some progressive things going on up until mid 70's? The oligarchs and "believe in nothing but money and power" politicians are 100 % responsible for the mess today.
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Quote from: SimonNZ on August 06, 2020, 03:25:29 AM
I didn't ask you and I don't respect your opinion on the subject.

Sure, you don't need to respect my opinions, but the link I gave isn't "my opinion", but an article about the problematic past of Kamala Harris providing an insight why she may not be a superb VP pick because "governing" doesn't seem to be her forte.

Can't we drop this "2+2 is not 4 when a lefty says so" silliness. Why is the link I gave "not to be respected"? Just because I linked it?
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SimonNZ

I consider myself a lefty.

I consider you someone who is proud to say he doesn't read books.

71 dB

I jump out of this before it escalates.  :)
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     There can be a price to pay in wooing the last voter among the Bernie Bros. That price could be 2 votes elsewhere.
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Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

arpeggio

Trump has several things going for him.

He understands the American electoral system and how to exploit it.

He is a superb con man.

André

Quote from: Todd on August 06, 2020, 05:27:48 AM

What a bold prediction.

Sure, it's not going to win the Nostradamus Prize  :P.

His « 13 keys model » is an intriguing concept. Could only work in the US, though.

Todd

Quote from: André on August 06, 2020, 09:08:30 AMHis « 13 keys model » is an intriguing concept. Could only work in the US, though.


He received some press attention after Trump won, precisely because he was one of very few people who called it.  The circumstances that existed in 2016 were unique, capped off by just about the worst candidate Dems could have selected.  While 2020 is unique, it is less comparatively unique.  The US has gone through the one-two punch of pandemic and depression before, and last time the White House switched parties.

Of course Lichtman's approach would work only for the US.  That is what it is designed for.  It accounts for the US Constitutional framework and recurring electoral trends with respect to Congress and the presidency.  Non-American observers continually fail to properly account for the unique political landscape of the US.  Political life under a parliamentary system is rather different.
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Herman

Based on my "the bad guy always wins" premiss I predicted, from afar, that Trump would beat Hilary, back in 2016.

People said I was crazy.

I'm not making any predictions this time.

Todd

Quote from: Herman on August 06, 2020, 11:58:59 AM
Based on my "the bad guy always wins" premiss I predicted


Hillary lost.
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Herman

Troll satanically laughing at each and every post he writes.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Herman on August 06, 2020, 01:49:07 PM
Troll satanically laughing at each and every post he writes.

Yeah, whatever blanches his almonds....
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Todd

Satan.  That's rough stuff.
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Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Todd

New York Attorney General Sues N.R.A. and Seeks Its Closure

This election year needed another big wedge issue to flare up.  Oh yeah!
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People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

greg

Quote from: Todd on August 06, 2020, 01:54:01 PM
Satan.  That's rough stuff.
Quote from: Herman on August 06, 2020, 01:49:07 PM
Troll Satanically Laughing
This is the name of the black metal band that Todd is secretly a part of, I wonder how'd you know?

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