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drogulus

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Quote from: Dowder on October 01, 2020, 05:58:29 AM
This is another go to by libs to dismiss debate and end free speech. Any and all Trump supporters must be paid Russian trolls.

Whatever. I don't have to defend myself from that kind of malarky.

     He thinks you are not a paid Russian troll. I'm sure you believe Russian trolls are paid to tell the truth, and you are free to say the same things.
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Herman

Quote from: Dowder on October 01, 2020, 05:58:29 AM
This is another go to by libs to dismiss debate and end free speech. Any and all Trump supporters must be paid Russian trolls.

Whatever. I don't have to defend myself from that kind of malarky.

No, you don't. In addition, that's not what I said. I said you are doing stuff for free other people get paid for.

To vary on a Trump quote, I'm not sure that makes you smart.

Both participants in Monday nights debate looked their age, i.e. old.

The funny thing is however that Trump managed to look like a six-year old, too, vociferously demanding attention all the time, not paying any attention to the rules and big on the "nya nya you're the puppet".

There are a lot of those in old folks' homes.

BasilValentine

Quote from: drogulus on October 01, 2020, 06:40:38 AM
     
     He thinks you are not a paid Russian troll. I'm sure you believe Russian trolls are paid to tell the truth, and you are free to say the same things.

The confusion occurs when someone so faithfully repeats Cozy Bear's talking points that it's indistinguishable from the original troll talk.

arpeggio

Dowder,

You are condoning the acts of a racist who is threatening a civil war.

Even Mitch McConnell was critical of Trump concerning the Proud Boys or are you going to call him a "clown" as well.

There are many conservatives of conscious who are voting for Trump.  I saw an interview of a retired colonel army ranger who is a life long Republican who is supporting Biden.

No responsible person is taking your playground arguments seriously.

Karl Henning

Blah blah blah.

Trump looked like a drunken asshole.

"Tuesday night's debate was a comedown for many Republicans who were flying high after the Senate GOP conference quickly unified behind Trump's Supreme Court pick. Instead of spending Wednesday touting nominee Amy Coney Barrett, they spent the day fielding questions about the president's refusal to directly rebuke white supremacist groups or to commit to a peaceful transfer of power.

The first media question at an event Senate Republican women planned Wednesday morning to highlight Barrett's nomination to the Supreme Court was about Trump's debate performance and whether it would hurt Senate Republican candidates with female voters."
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: drogulus on October 01, 2020, 06:40:38 AM
     
     He thinks you are not a paid Russian troll. I'm sure you believe Russian trolls are paid to tell the truth, and you are free to say the same things.

Not much gratification in clarifying things for someone with too little wit to understand plain English, eh?
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: BasilValentine on October 01, 2020, 06:52:59 AM
The confusion occurs when someone so faithfully repeats Cozy Bear's talking points that it's indistinguishable from the original troll talk.

And "What Lies?" Mini Bear mistakes regurgitating trollspeak for "debate."
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 01, 2020, 07:48:32 AM
Blah blah blah.

Trump looked like a drunken asshole.

"Tuesday night's debate was a comedown for many Republicans who were flying high after the Senate GOP conference quickly unified behind Trump's Supreme Court pick. Instead of spending Wednesday touting nominee Amy Coney Barrett, they spent the day fielding questions about the president's refusal to directly rebuke white supremacist groups or to commit to a peaceful transfer of power.

The first media question at an event Senate Republican women planned Wednesday morning to highlight Barrett's nomination to the Supreme Court was about Trump's debate performance and whether it would hurt Senate Republican candidates with female voters."

I assume he was talking/drama-performing to undecided voters, who tend to have lowest education and political knowledge, rather than the entire nation or the GOP voters.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 01, 2020, 08:00:17 AM
I assume he was talking/drama-performing to undecided voters, who tend to have lowest education and political knowledge, rather than the entire nation or the GOP voters.

That erroneously imputes strategy to a President who is just id on wilted watercress.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

[  "People close to him are blunt that the president knows he's losing and is scared of it." ]
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Herman

That's too hopeful for me.

I think he's spending his time figuring out with Barr how to invalidate the elections, so as to come out on top.

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

greg

This Proud Boys thing is just stupid. Come on, people.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54359993

He later says he doesn't know who the Proud Boys are, and tells them to "stand back and let law enforcement do their job."

Another example of being inarticulate and so the people who hate you interpret the worst thing possible to use as ammo.

And it's questionable about them being a white supremacist group. Their focus seems to be more on traditional values. And their leader is Afro-Cuban... seems if it were more race focused, they would only accept white people.
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bhodges

Quote from: greg on October 01, 2020, 09:10:30 AM
And it's questionable about them being a white supremacist group. Their focus seems to be more on traditional values. And their leader is Afro-Cuban... seems if it were more race focused, they would only accept white people.

Sorry, but there's no doubt about who they are:

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/proud-boys

--Bruce

Herman

Quote from: greg on October 01, 2020, 09:10:30 AM
This Proud Boys thing is just stupid. Come on, people.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54359993

He later says he doesn't know who the Proud Boys are, and tells them to "stand back and let law enforcement do their job."

Another example of being inarticulate and so the people who hate you interpret the worst thing possible to use as ammo.

And it's questionable about them being a white supremacist group. Their focus seems to be more on traditional values. And their leader is Afro-Cuban... seems if it were more race focused, they would only accept white people.

This is being wilfully naive. Making an extreme statement and putting out something different 24 hrs later is standard Trump strategy. It has nothing to do with being inarticulate. He gives extremist groups the go ahead, right in broad daylight, and, after some protests of GOP senators who are fighting an election, he acts as if he didn't mean it this way. However there is such a long pattern of encouraging violence, there is no denying.

Questioning whether Proud Boys is or is not a white supremacist group is just too stupid for words. "Traditional values", please.

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

Quote from: Herman on October 01, 2020, 09:31:00 AM
This is being wilfully naive. Making an extreme statement and putting out something different 24 hrs later is standard Trump strategy. It has nothing to do with being inarticulate. He gives extremist groups the go ahead, right in broad daylight, and, after some protests of GOP senators who are fighting an election, he acts as if he didn't mean it this way. However there is such a long pattern of encouraging violence, there is no denying.

Questioning whether Proud Boys is or is not a white supremacist group is just too stupid for words. "Traditional values", please.

Yes. Trial and error, and oscillating tactics.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Herman on October 01, 2020, 08:18:32 AM
That's too hopeful for me.

I think he's spending his time figuring out with Barr how to invalidate the elections, so as to come out on top.


Not enough to know that President Snowflake is skeered, no.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

BasilValentine

Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 01, 2020, 10:07:59 AM
Yes. Trial and error, and oscillating tactics.

It's not trial and error and the tactics don't oscillate. It's a consistent pattern and strategy. He states the message he wants the white supremacists to act on, knowing that they know to ignore the inevitable walk-back that follows after flack from the media and more moderate voices. The hate groups also know to ignore any words of conciliation read halfheartedly off of a teleprompter.

Karl Henning

Quote from: BasilValentine on October 01, 2020, 10:38:09 AM
It's not trial and error and the tactics don't oscillate. It's a consistent pattern and strategy. He states the message he wants the white supremacists to act on, knowing that they know to ignore the inevitable walk-back that follows after flack from the media and more moderate voices. The hate groups also know to ignore any words of conciliation read halfheartedly off of a teleprompter.

Filtering out the "ventriloquist"
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

T. D.

Parscale -2-
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/01/brad-parscale-judge-orders-guns-kept-from-former-trump-campaign-boss.html
They took his guns away! :'(
Next stop probably rehab.   :laugh: Is there a MAGA equivalent of the Oprah TV show he could cry on?