Avant Garde Music for Solo Violin, Viola, Cello and Double Bass.

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This is a big area, there's a lot of it, and much of it is good, so I thought I'd start a thread, if only to collect it all together.

I'll kick it off with something I've been listening to this morning, a lyrical, gruff assemblage of cello pieces by Ralph Shapey called Krosnick Soli, played on this CD by Scott Kluksdahl. Written in 1983.  I think it uses some sort of scordatura, and the result is a really striking contrast between the lower registers and the higher ones, as if the lower string is an intruder in the party. Each of the Krosnick soli has a distinctive emotional flavour, but the piece manages to work as a whole, unified in some way by its harmonies I guess.

It's been a while since I listened to Shapey and in truth I'd forgotten what an interesting, spiritual, composer he is. There's a lot of his music on record now  - quartets, piano etc.

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Mandryka

Lachenmann's Toccatina for solo violin  uses extreme instrumental techniques - for example, you pluck the strings with the metal nut at the end of the bow, the thing normally used to tighten the horse hair. It makes a lovely sound.


How can a plink and a pizzz be turned into music? Are these random sounds or is there some sort of plan? You never know with this sort of thing whether the interest is from the novelty or the poetry.  I think the latter - I think this is gentle, refined music. Full of air, ethereal. This is what angels sound like.

But I'm not sure.

There are lots of recordings,  the one in the pic was chosen pretty well at random.
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Luciano Berio wrote Sequenza Vi for Walter Trampler in 1967, who recorded it above. The composer described it as follows

QuoteSequenza VI for viola, written for a modern soloist in the widest and most responsible sense of the term, is a piece of great virtuosity (a very indirect homage to Paganini's Capricci) where the same basic harmonic sequence is continuously repeated, developed and transformed. It is a formal study on repetition, on the relationship between often repeated modules and modules appearing only once.

Listening to it today I was struck that much the same could be said of Franco Donatoni's Ciglio (1989) for violin, which as far as I know has never been commercially recorded (if someone has a recording, please say) Fortunately there is this youtube from a concert by Lorenzo Gorli

https://www.youtube.com/v/09OEVj0s6qM

There's more to the Donatoni than repetition. With Donatoni you are swept along a road and suddenly, you've had enough, it becomes boring and there's a transition -- those transitions are what make the thing special of course. And this is very much what Bernhard Lang is interested in, in the series of pieces called Monadologie. There are none that I've heard for solo string instrument, but here's one for flute (2012)


https://www.youtube.com/v/JcMdChOES5c



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Mandryka

Very valuable study of Boulez's Anthèmes 1 here

https://fdocuments.in/document/goldman-understanding-pierre-boulez-anthemes.html

And I take the opportunity to mention this Irvine Arditti 2017 release, which I've only just discovered, and it is exceptional.

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I'm going to make a single note about two pieces, Isan Yun's Glissées (1970)  for solo cello and Richard Barrett's Ne songe plus a fuire (1985) for amplified cello, not because of a shared style or sonority (but they do both have a sense of exploring the sound possibilities of the instrument quite fully, but they're not the same instrument), but more because of the extreme darkness of the mood they elicit in me.  This expressiveness was certainly part of Barrett's design, he was inspired by Roberto Matta's sequences of canvases with the same name, an example of one will give you the flavour





The Barrett seems to me to be a major masterpiece.

https://www.youtube.com/v/8FZYEYnQtgM

https://www.youtube.com/v/qDch-EqkOJw
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I've had a real soft spot for Klaus Huber for years now, ever since I found some comments of Ferneyhough praising his music to the skies. What a pleasure to discover his piece for solo . . . called Ein Hauch von Unzeit, which he's describes as " A Lament on the Loss of Musical Thought – some Madrigals for Solo Flute or Flute with any other Instruments".  It is in some sense aleatoric, and it has been recorded many times, on many instruments. The one which is really haunting me is on this CD by Bjorn Ianke for solo double bass



It is a exercise in disintegration, the double bass, deep and quiet, brings out the quality of lamento. A masterful performance of a masterpiece.
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Gnarly, twisted, dark: this fury is inside. Anger which doesn't show up in brutal action but in brooding horror.


Very good. Play it once and if you're like me you'll want to hear it again straight away.


Rebecca Saunders has also written a double bass concert of the same name, or rather Fury II,  which I missed in London last year.

Here on yourtube, a different performance

https://www.youtube.com/v/T46RjS20-cg
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Very nice list so far. I'll be returning to it now and again.

You know that Dumitrescu and Avram have many solo pieces, especially for cello and for double bass.

Those are outrageously gorgeous and fun.

And you know the Hespos album of solo works? I've not listened to it, much, but it's there. And I can listen to it any time I want. :-)

Anyway, thanks for this. I hope others will join it. Perhaps a wind and a brass thread could be done along the same lines.

T. D.

Quote from: Mandryka on June 13, 2020, 04:43:28 AM
   



Thanks for reminding me of this. I like both Palm and B A Zimmermann, have another recording of Intercomunicazione.

For solo cello:

Mandryka

Quote from: T. D. on August 04, 2020, 07:47:13 PM

For solo cello:


Have you had the chance to hear Arne Deforce play the trilogia?

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Quote from: Mandryka on August 05, 2020, 01:05:26 AM
Have you had the chance to hear Arne Deforce play the trilogia?



No I haven't, thanks for the suggestion! I've only heard Uitti and vaguely felt there was more to the music than her performance brought out.

André Le Nôtre

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An interesting thread. Not sure exactly what time period you are looking at here. However, I think a monumental piece in the genre is the Sonata for Unaccompanied cello Op. 8 by Zoltan Kodaly. The recording by Janos Starker on Period LP (original issue, early 50s) is one of the very greatest recordings ever made-technically, musically, and sonically. In terms of sound quality, I would put this up against anything. I play this for people on my system and their jaws drop to the floor. One of my favorite LPs.

Also belonging to this genre are the incredible pieces for solo violin by Karl Nielsen: Prelude and Theme with Variations, and Preludio e Presto.

Ersnt Reijseger also has composed some interesting pieces (soundtrack to Cave of Forgotten Dreams).

I love the organ accompaniment here (to five-string cello). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIMvM8u9C-o


Mandryka



I just note that this is an exceptionally interesting release of double bass pieces, played by Michael Francis Duch,  widely available on streaming at least in sub-CD quality. Lene Grenager a collaborator in Spunk of the great Maja Solveig Kjelstrup Ratkje.  In Flac here

https://www.prostudiomasters.com/album/page/26095

There are two solo works for bass: Rondo for Michael and Practice -violence, for bass with voice accompaniment in English -- very amusing voice accompaniment too.  In addition the recording includes the quartet Moving the stones where he quadrupels himself with two times bass, radio and voice. Moving the stones is presumably a reference to Christian Wolff's Stones.
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Perhaps "improv" rather than "classical", and I'm sometimes sceptical about Beckett inspiration, but I just enjoyed all 14-odd minutes of this (solo bass) on Bandcamp:


This earlier release, which I haven't heard but am considering, includes a shorter rendition of the 5 Fizzles:

Mandryka

Quote from: some guy on August 04, 2020, 07:26:38 PM
Very nice list so far. I'll be returning to it now and again.

You know that Dumitrescu and Avram have many solo pieces, especially for cello and for double bass.

Those are outrageously gorgeous and fun.

And you know the Hespos album of solo works? I've not listened to it, much, but it's there. And I can listen to it any time I want. :-)

Anyway, thanks for this. I hope others will join it. Perhaps a wind and a brass thread could be done along the same lines.

Only just saw this post, for some reason


Quote from: some guy on August 04, 2020, 07:26:38 PM


You know that Dumitrescu and Avram have many solo pieces, especially for cello and for double bass.

Those are outrageously gorgeous and fun.



Ah yes indeed, the incredible Medium II on this CD



(Can anyone let me have a copy of Medium III ? Or find me one for sale at less than £20 say?)

There's also this viola solo, which was one of the first pieces that I ever heard by Dumitrescu - Holzwege

https://www.youtube.com/v/AVhgOhNxggk



Quote from: some guy on August 04, 2020, 07:26:38 PM


And you know the Hespos album of solo works? I've not listened to it, much, but it's there. And I can listen to it any time I want. :-)



You must mean this one



I got it out when I started this thread and there's no solo strings music on there.

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Mandryka

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And this may be even more strange, Maps of Non-Existent Cities: Berlin for solo violin by Dmitri Kourliandski


https://www.youtube.com/v/HP2Mp-FPucs&ab_channel=VladislavPessin-Topic
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Quote from: Mandryka on September 25, 2020, 11:13:06 AM
Here's something maybe worth hearing - Frank Bedrossian, The Spider as an Artist for solo cello.

https://soundcloud.com/franck-bedrossian/the-spider-as-an-artist-2014-for-solo-cello-excerpt

And here on a CD

https://www.youtube.com/v/BVaVJvsaczs&ab_channel=L%C3%A9oWarynski-Topic

In the end I enjoyed Séverine Ballon's recording of Bedrossian's The Spider as Artist rather more than the one on CD, it's a bit more leisurely, which always suits me. Séverine Ballon is a composer in her own right, and she has this recording devoted to solo cello music by other classic composers - I'm listening the opening Rebecca Saunders piece, the eponymous Solitude, as I type this


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Quote from: Mandryka on September 30, 2020, 12:11:02 PM
Here's Dumitrescu looking like he should at Cafe Oto

https://www.youtube.com/v/_q1GF73uhmo&ab_channel=Polca

I like this.
WTF is Dumitrescu wearing around his neck? Looks almost like a USA flag (say it ain't so...).  :o
The other works on the program look even more appealing to me, even though they're OT to this thread, possibly not written by Dumitrescu and apparently not on Youtube:
"Three" - John Edwards, Gwen Reed, Otto Willberg, spectral improvisation for three double basses
"Five" - Sarah Gail Brand (trombone), Chris Cutler & Mark Sanders (percussion), Tim Hodgkinson & Yoni Silver (bass clarinets)


Ran across Dumitrescu's Gnosis for solo doublebass on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUrSG6OxbUw

And better-known stuff (though not to me):

Berio Sequenza XIVb arr. Scodanibbio for double bass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF4uQegDWE0
Xenakis Theraps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_p5pzqZjG0
Persichetti, Parable XVII for double bass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbMkukOkm3w