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Offline Mandryka

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Re: This music is like placing your feet in the sand by the ocean's edge.
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2021, 11:23:08 AM »
I think that Robert Ashley’s In Sara, Mencken, Christ and Beethoven There Were Men and Women is an example of this type of music. About a third of it here

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Re: This music is like placing your feet in the sand by the ocean's edge.
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2021, 03:08:54 PM »
I think that Robert Ashley’s In Sara, Mencken, Christ and Beethoven There Were Men and Women is an example of this type of music. About a third of it here

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The synthesizer is a bit much for me.
But I like Ashley and think his Perfect Lives is an amazing, fantastic work.
IMO the first and last scenes thereof, THE PARK (Privacy Rules) and THE BACKYARD (T'Be Continued) work better in that regard. I love THE PARK and frequently listen to it stand-alone.

The Park (starts around 1'10" in): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW0wj1ut4gA&list=RDZW0wj1ut4gA&start_radio=1&t=43

The Backyard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYrOa3fcCNg

Various scenes/acts of his "television operas" would also work, but these come to mind first.

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Re: This music is like placing your feet in the sand by the ocean's edge.
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2021, 01:10:54 AM »
The synthesizer is a bit much for me.
But I like Ashley and think his Perfect Lives is an amazing, fantastic work.
IMO the first and last scenes thereof, THE PARK (Privacy Rules) and THE BACKYARD (T'Be Continued) work better in that regard. I love THE PARK and frequently listen to it stand-alone.

The Park (starts around 1'10" in): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW0wj1ut4gA&list=RDZW0wj1ut4gA&start_radio=1&t=43

The Backyard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYrOa3fcCNg

Various scenes/acts of his "television operas" would also work, but these come to mind first.

You can’t stand the synthesiser in In Sara, Mencken  . . . , I can’t stand the jazzy piano in Privacy Rules! But I agree that it’s amazing music and beginning to think I need to hear everything that Robert Ashley did.


There’s a lot of good American music.
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Re: This music is like placing your feet in the sand by the ocean's edge.
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2021, 12:26:28 PM »
Linda Caitlin Smith’s Meadow is very much like placing your feet in the sand by the ocean's edge. Relax, enjoy, pamper yourself. Shallow but nice.

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I'm wondering if Mandryka will valid this album in this topic :'(

Anyway, I very much appreciated it last few weeks !
I would say it is a kind of very sensitive exploration into microtonality by this young american composer.
The music moved me a lot  :)

Jordan Dykstra : The Arrow of Time
New World Records (2020)
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nmNblnmAbTjveTAd8pm9XoiBfdi1M899E




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I'm wondering if Mandryka will valid this album in this topic :'(

Anyway, I very much appreciated it last few weeks !
I would say it is a kind of very sensitive exploration into microtonality by this young american composer.
The music moved me a lot  :)

Jordan Dykstra : The Arrow of Time
New World Records (2020)
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nmNblnmAbTjveTAd8pm9XoiBfdi1M899E

 You can certainly hear the Alvin Lucier influence in some of his music on spotify. 

Listening at the moment to this.

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Bernhard Lang's Monoldologie series takes fragments of existing music, and basically repeats them over and over again. I'm sure there's more to it, because I can assure you the results can be very good -- I think the trick is about when and how to stop the repetitions and make a change, and when to introduce slight variations, I expect there's a lot of craft involved. I think he uses computers.

In some cases I much prefer what he's done to the source music -- the Monadologie based on Haydn's Seven Words on The Cross, which Arditti recorded, is an example -- the Haydn has always been a blind spot for me in instrumental form at least. And I'll say that on this CD, Monadologie XX -- based on Schubert op 100 is at least as fun as the original --  and the original is one of my favourite pieces of music.

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You can certainly hear the Alvin Lucier influence in some of his music on spotify. 

Listening at the moment to this.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/btrLBOzcBvg&amp;ab_channel=JordanDykstra-Topic" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/btrLBOzcBvg&amp;ab_channel=JordanDykstra-Topic</a>


Otherwise, I was rather disappointed with the rest of Jordan Dykstra's work.
It is especially this album "The Arrow of Time" that I like a lot... He is more personal here, I found.


(I realize that I am not so very familiar with Alvin Lucier's work... I tended to confuse him with Alvin Curran  :P )