This music is like placing your feet in the sand by the ocean's edge.

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Mandryka

I think that Robert Ashley's In Sara, Mencken, Christ and Beethoven There Were Men and Women is an example of this type of music. About a third of it here

https://www.youtube.com/v/sWpzzG7Rwjs
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T. D.

Quote from: Mandryka on February 15, 2021, 10:23:08 AM
I think that Robert Ashley's In Sara, Mencken, Christ and Beethoven There Were Men and Women is an example of this type of music. About a third of it here

https://www.youtube.com/v/sWpzzG7Rwjs

The synthesizer is a bit much for me.
But I like Ashley and think his Perfect Lives is an amazing, fantastic work.
IMO the first and last scenes thereof, THE PARK (Privacy Rules) and THE BACKYARD (T'Be Continued) work better in that regard. I love THE PARK and frequently listen to it stand-alone.

The Park (starts around 1'10" in): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW0wj1ut4gA&list=RDZW0wj1ut4gA&start_radio=1&t=43

The Backyard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYrOa3fcCNg

Various scenes/acts of his "television operas" would also work, but these come to mind first.

Mandryka

Quote from: T. D. on February 15, 2021, 02:08:54 PM
The synthesizer is a bit much for me.
But I like Ashley and think his Perfect Lives is an amazing, fantastic work.
IMO the first and last scenes thereof, THE PARK (Privacy Rules) and THE BACKYARD (T'Be Continued) work better in that regard. I love THE PARK and frequently listen to it stand-alone.

The Park (starts around 1'10" in): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW0wj1ut4gA&list=RDZW0wj1ut4gA&start_radio=1&t=43

The Backyard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYrOa3fcCNg

Various scenes/acts of his "television operas" would also work, but these come to mind first.

You can't stand the synthesiser in In Sara, Mencken  . . . , I can't stand the jazzy piano in Privacy Rules! But I agree that it's amazing music and beginning to think I need to hear everything that Robert Ashley did.


There's a lot of good American music.
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Mandryka

Linda Caitlin Smith's Meadow is very much like placing your feet in the sand by the ocean's edge. Relax, enjoy, pamper yourself. Shallow but nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6a2yE2DrJI
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mabuse

I'm wondering if Mandryka will valid this album in this topic :'(

Anyway, I very much appreciated it last few weeks !
I would say it is a kind of very sensitive exploration into microtonality by this young american composer.
The music moved me a lot  :)

Jordan Dykstra : The Arrow of Time
New World Records (2020)
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nmNblnmAbTjveTAd8pm9XoiBfdi1M899E




Mandryka

Quote from: mabuse on May 03, 2021, 05:57:10 AM
I'm wondering if Mandryka will valid this album in this topic :'(

Anyway, I very much appreciated it last few weeks !
I would say it is a kind of very sensitive exploration into microtonality by this young american composer.
The music moved me a lot  :)

Jordan Dykstra : The Arrow of Time
New World Records (2020)
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nmNblnmAbTjveTAd8pm9XoiBfdi1M899E

You can certainly hear the Alvin Lucier influence in some of his music on spotify. 

Listening at the moment to this.

https://www.youtube.com/v/btrLBOzcBvg&ab_channel=JordanDykstra-Topic
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Mandryka

Bernhard Lang's Monoldologie series takes fragments of existing music, and basically repeats them over and over again. I'm sure there's more to it, because I can assure you the results can be very good -- I think the trick is about when and how to stop the repetitions and make a change, and when to introduce slight variations, I expect there's a lot of craft involved. I think he uses computers.

In some cases I much prefer what he's done to the source music -- the Monadologie based on Haydn's Seven Words on The Cross, which Arditti recorded, is an example -- the Haydn has always been a blind spot for me in instrumental form at least. And I'll say that on this CD, Monadologie XX -- based on Schubert op 100 is at least as fun as the original --  and the original is one of my favourite pieces of music.

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mabuse

Quote from: Mandryka on May 09, 2021, 11:22:11 AM
You can certainly hear the Alvin Lucier influence in some of his music on spotify. 

Listening at the moment to this.

https://www.youtube.com/v/btrLBOzcBvg&ab_channel=JordanDykstra-Topic


Otherwise, I was rather disappointed with the rest of Jordan Dykstra's work.
It is especially this album "The Arrow of Time" that I like a lot... He is more personal here, I found.


(I realize that I am not so very familiar with Alvin Lucier's work... I tended to confuse him with Alvin Curran  :P )

Mandryka



New release, I must say the more I hear of Tilbury the more I think he's got the magic, he's a "great musician."
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T. D.

Quote from: Mandryka on May 24, 2022, 01:17:23 PM


New release, I must say the more I hear of Tilbury the more I think he's got the magic, he's a "great musician."

I saw this announced in Simon's (Another Timbre) e-mail, considered it...
but then recalled that I've heard and strongly disliked (bought it for a pittance, gave it away) this recording



The Schleiermacher recording was not at all like "placing your feet in the sand by the ocean's edge", BTW  :o.
I'll try the sound samples at the AT site...hope it's a lot different from the MDG!

T. D.

To Tilbury's credit, the clip on Youtube (via AT site) sounds much better than the Schleiermacher/MDG recording. I'd like to hear more clips (or a longer one), though.

Mandryka

Quote from: T. D. on May 25, 2022, 08:51:00 AM
To Tilbury's credit, the clip on Youtube (via AT site) sounds much better than the Schleiermacher/MDG recording. I'd like to hear more clips (or a longer one), though.

The difference seems most marked in the first study.
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