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Re: Bach French Suites
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2020, 07:16:17 PM »
Bob van Asperen's French Suites still features one of the very best harpsichord sounds I've ever heard in my life. I don't know what it is about it, but it sounds fucking phenomenal! Too bad it's impossible to find on CD.

Christian Vater 1738 in Nuremberg National Museum - as far as I know this is the only recording of the instrument. There are many recordings of modern harpsichords “after” the Christian Vater 1738, but it’s not the same! The sound is strong and rich, but not specially refined or delicate. As far as the performances go, it’s very decorative - what I mean is, he lays on both ornamentation and rubato liberally. In a sense it could be seen as a preliminary study for his extraordinary hardcore decorated Art of Fugue.
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Re: Bach French Suites
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2020, 10:42:39 PM »


This is an interesting one, impetuous and passionate. Someone I know compared Blandine Verlet to Martha Argerich, and listening this morning that comparison came to mind.
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Re: Bach French Suites
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2020, 10:44:41 PM »
Bob van Asperen's French Suites still features one of the very best harpsichord sounds I've ever heard in my life. I don't know what it is about it, but it sounds fucking phenomenal! Too bad it's impossible to find on CD.

I know... I waited to long and am now empty handed.....  ::)

The good news is that Æolus actually reissues recordings that run out of print - bless them for this old fashioned attitude...

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Re: Bach French Suites
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2020, 12:52:33 AM »
Bob van Asperen's French Suites still features one of the very best harpsichord sounds I've ever heard in my life. I don't know what it is about it, but it sounds fucking phenomenal! Too bad it's impossible to find on CD.
this and Bradley Brookshire are my favorites I’ve never heard an instrument sound quite like Van Asperen’s.

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« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2020, 06:08:13 AM »
this and Bradley Brookshire are my favorites I’ve never heard an instrument sound quite like Van Asperen’s.

Bradley Brookshire uses a modern harpsichord based on the Nuremberg Vater, I agree it sounds different.
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Re: Bach French Suites
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2020, 08:56:43 PM »

Well, so far this makes much more sense to me than his other lute harpsichord recordings of Bach. I like this although I do struggle with having listened to this work too much.

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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2020, 09:00:44 PM »

Well, so far this makes much more sense to me than his other lute harpsichord recordings of Bach. I like this although I do struggle with having listened to this work too much.

 I think the Rübsam approach is most fruitful in polyphony, less so in music where there’s only one interesting voice.
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Re: Bach French Suites
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2020, 09:07:41 PM »
I only have a few recordings of these works, but Gavrilov/EMI (piano) would really be my desert-island choice & it's more or less enough for me.
Btw the budget twofer also has Bunin in some further Bach works, likewise good.
I have quite a few versions and this is the one I return to the most.
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« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2020, 10:53:50 PM »
I have quite a few versions and this is the one I return to the most.
I’m struggling to understand what it is about Gavrilov. To me, it almost sounds like he was playing to a click-track. But admittedly, I just sampled a little bit of it.

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Re: Bach French Suites
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2020, 01:36:08 AM »

Well, so far this makes much more sense to me than his other lute harpsichord recordings of Bach. I like this although I do struggle with having listened to this work too much.

I'm with milk on this - to me it makes much more sense in this sort of music (a little of 'Style brisé' feel) than in strict polyphony.
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« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2020, 02:07:38 AM »
to me it makes much more sense in this sort of music (a little of 'Style brisé' feel) than in strict polyphony.
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Re: Bach French Suites
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2020, 03:22:42 AM »

Well, so far this makes much more sense to me than his other lute harpsichord recordings of Bach. I like this although I do struggle with having listened to this work too much.

I think the Rübsam approach is most fruitful in polyphony, less so in music where there’s only one interesting voice.

I'm with milk on this - to me it makes much more sense in this sort of music (a little of 'Style brisé' feel) than in strict polyphony.
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I stand mid between, because I think Rübsam's style makes sense both in polyphonic music and in lute-like music.
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