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Re: USA Politics (redux)
« Reply #2920 on: September 14, 2021, 09:48:59 AM »
Of course, the horrible fact is, we're not yet out of the woods.
Yes, too true!  :(  Had you heard/read this news yet Karel?

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« Reply #2921 on: September 14, 2021, 12:21:22 PM »
Andrew Yang to start third party.

Without ranked-choice voting this will end up being pretty useless effort I'm afraid.  :P
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Re: USA Politics (redux)
« Reply #2922 on: September 14, 2021, 01:00:27 PM »
Andrew Yang to start third party.

Without ranked-choice voting this will end up being pretty useless effort I'm afraid.  :P

Yiou're right, at that.
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« Reply #2923 on: September 14, 2021, 01:01:17 PM »
Yes, too true!  :(  Had you heard/read this news yet Karel?

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Just saw a piece today.
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« Reply #2924 on: September 14, 2021, 03:22:35 PM »
Just been listening to some stunning news on CNN regarding information/research in the new Woodward/Costa book titled Peril.  I'm in shock!  Gen. Milley held a secret meeting due to concerns that he felt that Trump might go rogue.  Too much to write about it here.  Really want to read this book.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/14/politics/woodward-book-trump-nuclear/index.html

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Magaworld will say this confirms their "deep state" conspiracy theories and that it's "unconstitutional" to try to stop a madman from potentially launching a completely unjustified nuclear strike to distract from his election loss and declare a state of emergency.

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« Reply #2925 on: September 14, 2021, 03:57:21 PM »
Andrew Yang to start third party.

Without ranked-choice voting this will end up being pretty useless effort I'm afraid.  :P
Can't wait for leftists on Twitter to call it a fascist party if he refuses to play identity politics.
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« Reply #2926 on: September 15, 2021, 12:40:02 AM »
Yiou're right, at that.

Thanks for agreeing Karl.  ;)
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« Reply #2927 on: September 15, 2021, 02:05:19 AM »
Can't wait for leftists on Twitter to call it a fascist party if he refuses to play identity politics.
I was disappointed that he did just that towards the end of his mayoral campaign. That surprised me. It was a pretty lame and desperate attempt at jumping on the victim train. I hope he recovers his integrity for this new political venture because I'd quite liked him.

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Re: USA Politics (redux)
« Reply #2928 on: September 15, 2021, 02:47:53 AM »
Andrew Yang to start third party.

Without ranked-choice voting this will end up being pretty useless effort I'm afraid.  :P

Let me indulge in an aside re. rank-choice balloting.

Here in Canada a couple of elections ago the Liberal Partly leader, Justin Trudeau vowed that would be the last "first-past-the-post", (plurality wins), election.  After the election and a LP victory there was a multi-partisan Parliamentary committee appointed to look into the issue ...

As soon as it became apparent that the committee's consensus was leaning to proportional representation rather than ranked ballot, Trudeau shut committee down and shelved all consideration of electoral reform indefinitely.

You see, as the only centrist party the Liberal Party insiders deemed that ranked ballot would ensure LP majorities for decades to come -- whereas proportional representation would have a much different affect.  :o  Ranked ballot is merely an formalization of strategic voting.

Of course, Canadians can have as many as five significant parties on their ballot, much different than the USA where there is always only two significant parties' candidates.
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Re: USA Politics (redux)
« Reply #2929 on: September 15, 2021, 05:38:18 AM »
I was disappointed that he did just that towards the end of his mayoral campaign. That surprised me. It was a pretty lame and desperate attempt at jumping on the victim train. I hope he recovers his integrity for this new political venture because I'd quite liked him.

I heard he hired completely wrong people for his campaign and that's why it went down to toilet.

Let me indulge in an aside re. rank-choice balloting.

Here in Canada a couple of elections ago the Liberal Partly leader, Justin Trudeau vowed that would be the last "first-past-the-post", (plurality wins), election.  After the election and a LP victory there was a multi-partisan Parliamentary committee appointed to look into the issue ...

As soon as it became apparent that the committee's consensus was leaning to proportional representation rather than ranked ballot, Trudeau shut committee down and shelved all consideration of electoral reform indefinitely.

You see, as the only centrist party the Liberal Party insiders deemed that ranked ballot would ensure LP majorities for decades to come -- whereas proportional representation would have a much different affect.  :o  Ranked ballot is merely an formalization of strategic voting.

Of course, Canadians can have as many as five significant parties on their ballot, much different than the USA where there is always only two significant parties' candidates.

Yes, the US being so strongly two party system makes the difference.
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Re: USA Politics (redux)
« Reply #2931 on: Today at 04:28:47 AM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/16/trump-supports-jan-6-riot-defendants-police-brace-for-capitol-rally.html
>:(  With all of the crazy stuff going on in the world--including Covid--we have to waste money, officers and other resources and also pray that no one gets hurt!

Found this (by accident when googling about the protest) on Yahoo:

"WASHINGTON – Organizers of a Saturday rally supporting defendants charged in the Capitol riot Jan. 6 are urging participants not to wear clothing or carry signs supporting former President Donald Trump or President Joe Biden.

Matt Braynard, the former Trump campaign staffer who organized the rally, said participants who supported the political figures would be considered infiltrators.

'We request that anybody attending our events not wear any clothing or have signs supportive of either President Trump or Biden,” Braynard said in a tweet. “Anyone not honoring this request will be assumed to be an infiltrator and we will take your picture, find out who you are, and make you famous.'”


So, is this person, Matt Braynard, really the organizer of the rally?  It looks like it....

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« Reply #2932 on: Today at 06:35:03 AM »
>:(  With all of the crazy stuff going on in the world--including Covid--we have to waste money, officers and other resources and also pray that no one gets hurt!

Found this (by accident when googling about the protest) on Yahoo:

"WASHINGTON – Organizers of a Saturday rally supporting defendants charged in the Capitol riot Jan. 6 are urging participants not to wear clothing or carry signs supporting former President Donald Trump or President Joe Biden.

Matt Braynard, the former Trump campaign staffer who organized the rally, said participants who supported the political figures would be considered infiltrators.

'We request that anybody attending our events not wear any clothing or have signs supportive of either President Trump or Biden,” Braynard said in a tweet. “Anyone not honoring this request will be assumed to be an infiltrator and we will take your picture, find out who you are, and make you famous.'”


So, is this person, Matt Braynard, really the organizer of the rally?  It looks like it....

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Don't care enough to investigate. And you'd get into the question of figurehead vs. "real" organizer.

Apparently the cognoscenti feel this is a "false flag" operation and intend to give it a miss  :o :-X: https://www.yahoo.com/now/paranoia-accusations-cloud-efforts-launch-191150555.html