USA Politics (redux)

[T. D.]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/05/trump-pushes-georgia-governor-to-help-overturn-biden-election-win-.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/05/only-25-republican-lawmakers-have-acknowledged-bidens-win-over-trump-report-.html

Many of Trump's voters appear to be following the president, according to a recent CNBC/Change Research poll. Only 3% of Trump voters surveyed said they accept Biden's victory as legitimate, the survey released Monday found.

A staggering 73% of respondents consider Trump the legitimate winner. Another 24% said they are not sure.

[Todd]

Only 3% of Trump voters surveyed said they accept Biden's victory as legitimate, the survey released Monday found.

That's three percentage points more than the number of Democrats who accepted Trump's victory as legitimate. 

[drogulus]

     

Fine. By now it's Scholars 8 - drogulus 0. How much do you need to concede defeat? 13 - 0? 27 - 0? 147 - 0? Maybe a challenge in court? 

     $50,000 in collapsing fiat currency would do the trick.

     

[Florestan]

     
     $50,000 in collapsing fiat currency would do the trick.

   

You lose.

By all means, carry on as if nothing happened.

[SimonNZ]

What documented personality disorders, as diagnosed by clinical psychologists or psychiatrists who have met with Trump, have been disclosed?  As far as I am aware, claims of personality disorders are gossip only. 

Actually a psychologist who knows him well on account of being his niece has offered a diagnosis.

[Florestan]

a psychologist who knows him well on account of being his niece has offered a diagnosis.

Risum teneatis, amici?

[SimonNZ]

Risum teneatis, amici?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ridicule

You're in quite the stirring mood today, aren't you?

I'd go further than the above and say that Trump has offered any psychologist a window to his id through his unfiltered improv ramblings and his petulant twitter feed that one wonders what more they could learn by actually sitting down with him, and if he'd even be capable of anything close to such unvarnished honesty in such a setting.

[Florestan]

You're in quite the stirring mood today, aren't you?

Please, show me which one of Trump's actions were unconstitutional and/or broke the US statutory laws.

[SimonNZ]

You're being disingenuous  because you know that's not what fascists do. They fill all levels of the judiciary with loyalists then make the law whatever they need it to be. And if the votes were closer and there were fewer states contended we'd be seeing the results of that.

You know what else fascists do? They demonize and scapegoat specific groups in society while claiming to know which are the true countrymen. They demonize the free press and demand the media operate as state propaganda.  They refer to people who are on or support other parties as the enemy.They hold rallies where they whip up their base with hate speech and remind them who to hate.

[Karl Henning]

You know what else fascists do? They demonize and scapegoat specific groups in society while claiming to know which are the true countrymen. They demonize the free press and demand the media operate as state propaganda.  They refer to people who are on or support other parties as the enemy.They hold rallies where they whip up their base with hate speech and remind them who to hate.

Facts are stubborn things.

[71 dB]

Do you think Hitler decorated him for nothing?

Why do you even ask? I don't know my grandfather. How am I supposed to know if he earned it? I DON'T KNOW!! There's a lot more to do in a war than fighting.

[Florestan]

Posting in this thread is a huge waste of time. I wish I could stop. I must stop.

[Herman]

Posting in this thread is a huge waste of time. I wish I could stop. I must stop.

Please do.

[AlberichUndHagen]

What would be laughable if it weren't so horrible is the fact that Trump is probably going to face lawsuits... AFTER he's no longer a president, as if the president should be immune to criminal charges. That smells like dictatorship.

[Karl Henning]

What would be laughable if it weren't so horrible is the fact that Trump is probably going to face lawsuits... AFTER he's no longer a president, as if the president should be immune to criminal charges. That smells like dictatorship.

Meanwhile, there's the "If the thief is incompetent, theft isn't a crime, let alone, serious" claque.

[flyingdutchman]

What would be laughable if it weren't so horrible is the fact that Trump is probably going to face lawsuits... AFTER he's no longer a president, as if the president should be immune to criminal charges. That smells like dictatorship.

Well, he'll certainly face civil suits AND criminal indictments on the state level.  Rightly so.

[T. D.]

There has been ample coverage (in respectable sources) about post-POTUS legal threats to Cheeto Mussolini.

For instance https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-trump-faces-lawsuits-and-legal-threats/

Google will readily summon up others.

[BasilValentine]

What documented personality disorders, as diagnosed by clinical psychologists or psychiatrists who have met with Trump, have been disclosed?  As far as I am aware, claims of personality disorders are gossip only. 

As to criminality, well, let's just see what 2021 actually brings.

Obviously, it doesn't take training to spot personality disorders, but Trump's niece Mary has the qualifications and has listed a few.

As for the criminality, anyone who's paying attention should be able to name over a hundred crimes Trump has committed. Actually, that's not really fair, since just the money laundering charges for which he was fined for his casinos in Atlantic City gets one over 100. Add in the self dealing, the 430 million tax fraud scheme, sexual assaults, double selling of condos in Trump Tower Panama, campaign finance violations, money laundering for Dmitri Rubolovyev, and on and on ...

[Todd]

Obviously, it doesn't take training to spot personality disorders

In the real world, it obviously does.  Also in the real world, family members do not make good judges of other family members when it comes to psychological diagnoses because they lack objectivity.  It is good to know who takes Mary Trump seriously, though.

Perhaps you can list over one hundred crimes that Trump committed.

[T. D.]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/michigan-secretary-state-says-armed-035400636.html

Michigan secretary of state says armed protesters gathered outside her home