Started by Mirror Image, November 22, 2020, 01:35:59 PM
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Quote from: T. D. on November 22, 2020, 01:46:07 PMAgreed. Of the other 2 music forums on which I spend time, one long ago banned politics (not just threads, but posts invoking the subject) after initially allowing it, and the other allows only music discussions.
Quote from: Mirror Image on November 22, 2020, 01:35:59 PMIf the moderators take this poll down, then you've chosen to silence what could be a potentially fundamental issue in regards to the forum's future. Please let this poll determine whether to allow politics in this forum or ban them altogether. I realize that it's not an easy issue to deal with and make any hard decisions about, but I feel, and I'm speaking strictly for myself, that more members here are participating or worried about the political threads than actually contributing to what I would assume we're all here for: the discussion and sharing of music. I say enough is enough, which may not be a popular opinion, but it's how I feel.
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on November 22, 2020, 02:13:05 PMTell you what: PM he Admin and make an argument to him. We've already been down that road. It's his decision to make, not ours. FWIW, we are all in favor of no politics. Also FWIW, be careful what you wish for; posts will disappear in a hurry, no questions asked. Gurn
Quote from: Mirror Image on November 22, 2020, 02:27:47 PMHere's a question in response to this post, if all of you are in favor of no political threads, why haven't you messaged Rob? You're a moderator. If it's true what you say that every moderator feels that political threads should be banned, then why haven't you guys taken it out with him? All I can do is post a poll and get people's opinion on the topic. Don't turn the issue back on me and say I should PM him. I'm just a peon here, Gurn.
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on November 22, 2020, 05:03:21 PMThis is an ongoing discussion for many years now. You certainly have to realize we have talked to him about this, and more than once, but he has been adamant that there should be a venue here for discussing politics, since we are all grownups and know how to avoid things we don't really like. Not a lot else we can say or do, it's his board, after all. GB
Quote from: SimonNZ on November 22, 2020, 06:58:40 PMI predict that in the near future there will be a less pressing need to try and make sense of the political world and this question will be largely irrelevant or at any rate such threads will be much less heated and attract far fewer politics-only posters.
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on November 22, 2020, 05:03:21 PM[Rob] has been adamant that there should be a venue here for discussing politics, since we are all grownups and know how to avoid things we don't really like.
Quote from: Florestan on November 23, 2020, 12:38:32 AMReading some of the posts in this thread one would get the impression that politics has completely overtaken GMG and there's no thread or topic which has escaped its nefarious influence. Each time a new member registers s/h sees nothing but politics, while veteran members are exasperated by the proliferation of political threads in their "Show new replies to your posts" list.The truth is actually very different: there is only one single topic dedicated to politics (and whose title is very specific about it) located in a thread specifically dedicated to discussing "anything, music excepted". It really is very easy for someone who is not interested in politics to avoid reading it. Actually, the vast majority of GMGers have never posted about politics and have never complained about politics being discussed; they simply ignored it. There is only a very limited number of people who regularly post in that topic and all but one post regularly in music-related topics as well.And if this board should be exclusively focused on music, then why not ban discussing literature, movies, food and beverages as well?The only real problem is when things get overheated, but even this is not such a frequent ocurrence as one might think by reading some of the posts in this thread. A temporary locking is a very apt way to let things cool off naturally and even if I don't always like it I accept it as unavoidable.I voted NO.
Quote from: Iota on November 23, 2020, 04:11:42 AMI voted no. I would find the forum a poorer one without the politic threads, which are sometimes are very informative and interesting, there are a few keen political minds on here (amongst which mine certainly doesn't feature). For me the political element is a distinctive feature of GMG. The playground stuff is regrettable at times I agree. Perhaps the political threads could be hived off somewhere so they don't appear in the new posts lists?
Quote from: Sterna on November 23, 2020, 05:13:55 AMI have been told that the latter solution is used at the Talk Classical board.Maybe that will work for the more sensitive souls among us (like me), who get depressed and need a large quantity of sedatives after logging in and being confronted with the huge amount of new USA Politics balderdash.
Quote from: Sterna on November 22, 2020, 10:24:20 PMOf course, one can decide to keep the Politics/religion discussions here. If so, I would suggest a more strict moderating though.Members who do not follow the rules, should get a warning. And after 3 violations, they should be banned. Including me. I violated the rules yesterday. Only 2 to go for a ban. Bad luck, Sterna. Better behave. If not: good riddance.This also goes for those who violate the rules in the music threads, of course.All the temporary locks on heated topics, the deletion of a few posts... it's not going to help one bit.Only if you manage to get rid of the trolls, you can have a respectful and civilized discussion, no matter what the subject is.I voted for a ban on politics, because I think there are plenty of opportunities to discuss politics and religion elsewhere on the internet. On this music board (and on others) it has been a proven cause for unpleasant to very unpleasant behaviour. If people, for whatever reason, are tired of talking about music and prefer other subjects to talk about, let them go elsewhere. And leave the music boards to people who want to talk about music. Because that's where they came here for.
Quote from: Iota on November 23, 2020, 06:25:41 AMYes, I do understand. Even though I occasionally partake in and enjoy them, it's also a bit boring to see a whole slew of word games taking up new posts lists, and wouldn't mind if they were put somewhere separate, where one could actively seek them out if one chose. Of course I have no idea if this is technically possible though.
Quote from: Mirror Image on November 23, 2020, 06:26:45 AMUnfortunately, I've seen it far too many times that civil discussions cannot actually happen for long periods of time in the political threads.
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