10 favourite 'Lesser-known' piano concertos

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vandermolen

Lennox Berkeley: (for 2 Pianos)
Bliss: Piano Concerto
Cyril Scott: No.1
Hayasaka
Rawsthorne: No.2
Stanley Bate: Piano Concerto No.2
Egge: No.2
Rubbra Piano Concerto
Gordon Jacob: For Three Hands
Chisholm: No.1
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Brian

Oooh, fun one. Also I wonder where the boundary lies between more- and less-known! Does Saint-Saens 3 count? What about Britten? (Bonus: What about "Diversions"?)

Alkan - for Solo Piano
Englund - No. 1
Hahn - Concerto
Hurnik - Double Concerto (oboe and piano) (primarily for oboe, it's sort of like a role reversal of the Shostakovich piano/trumpet concerto, so perhaps it does not count)
Ireland - Concerto
Massenet - Concerto
Paderewski - Concerto
Rautavaara - No. 3 "Gift of Dreams"
Ries - "Greetings to the Rhine"
Szymanowski - Symphonie concertante

Bonus:
Tchaikovsky - I like No. 2 and Concert Fantasy better than No. 1!

vandermolen

Quote from: Brian on December 21, 2020, 02:53:00 PM
Oooh, fun one. Also I wonder where the boundary lies between more- and less-known! Does Saint-Saens 3 count? What about Britten? (Bonus: What about "Diversions"?)

Alkan - for Solo Piano
Englund - No. 1
Hahn - Concerto
Hurnik - Double Concerto (oboe and piano) (primarily for oboe, it's sort of like a role reversal of the Shostakovich piano/trumpet concerto, so perhaps it does not count)
Ireland - Concerto
Massenet - Concerto
Paderewski - Concerto
Rautavaara - No. 3 "Gift of Dreams"
Ries - "Greetings to the Rhine"
Szymanowski - Symphonie concertante

Bonus:
Tchaikovsky - I like No. 2 and Concert Fantasy better than No. 1!
Thanks and interesting list.
I like the Rautavaara as well but prefer Ireland's 'Legend' to the better known PC. +1 for Englund.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Brahmsian

Quote from: Brian on December 21, 2020, 02:53:00 PM

Paderewski - Concerto

Bonus:
Tchaikovsky - I like No. 2

Hope you are doing well, Brian! 🙂

Yup, agree about the Paderewski. Terrific work that I have heard live.

And I do absolutely love especially the middle movement of Tchaikovsky's 2nd piano concerto!

André

Arnold: concerto for 2 pianos, 3 hands
Ginastera, concerto no 1
Wiklund concertos 1 and 2
Rosenberg, concertos 1 and 2
Scharwenka, concertos 2 and 3
Panufnik
Szymanski

springrite

#5
I will just add a few more to what's already been mentioned:

Emil von Sauer PC 1, 2
Bortkiewicz PC 1, 2, 3
Ignaz Brull
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Symphonic Addict

Some have been superb discoveries:

Mosolov 1
Benoit
Alnaes
Boeck
Bacewicz
Levina 2
Mathieu 4
Carwithen
Vine 1
Papandopulo 3
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Symphonic Addict

Quote from: vandermolen on December 21, 2020, 02:31:00 PM
Lennox Berkeley: (for 2 Pianos)
Bliss: Piano Concerto
Cyril Scott: No.1
Hayasaka
Rawsthorne: No.2
Stanley Bate: Piano Concerto No.2
Egge: No.2
Rubbra Piano Concerto
Gordon Jacob: For Three Hands
Chisholm: No.1

I think there are too many non-British composers on your list, Jeffrey.  ;)
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Noam Chomsky

vandermolen

Quote from: André on December 21, 2020, 04:39:18 PM
Arnold: concerto for 2 pianos, 3 hands
Ginastera, concerto no 1
Wiklund concertos 1 and 2
Rosenberg, concertos 1 and 2
Scharwenka, concertos 2 and 3
Panufnik
Szymanski
Oh yes, the Arnold - great work and great fun - I could have included that. I hardly know the Rosenberg although I love his symphonies 2 'Grave', 3 and 6.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

#9
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on December 21, 2020, 06:06:52 PM
Some have been superb discoveries:

Mosolov 1
Benoit
Alnaes
Boeck
Bacewicz
Levina 2
Mathieu 4
Carwithen
Vine 1
Papandopulo 3
Interesting list Cesar, I know and like several of those including ones by Mosolov, Levina, Carwithen and Papandopulo No.3 but need to give them another listen.
Thanks for all replies - read with much interest.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

#10
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on December 21, 2020, 06:34:48 PM
I think there are too many non-British composers on your list, Jeffrey.  ;)
Haha, yes, I realised that as soon as I posted it Cesar! It looks a bit nationalistic - but that's not my thing at all, really.
I'm very fond, for example, of Bliss's big PC (and I like his shorter PC as well). It is not a 'great' work IMO but I find something very endearing about it and often return to it and find sections of it (climax of first movement) both moving and inspiriting. Anyway, they are not all British - one of my favourites is the one by Hayasaka and there is Egge No.2 and Chisholm is Scottish!  ;D
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

pjme

#11
Can I suggest totally unknown concerti? Often in dated recordings and performances....

Belgian:

Theo Ysaÿe (Eugène's brother): composed in 1907 - gorgeous, late romantic schmalz and brillance.
https://youtu.be/zlPBFDNEvQ4

René Defossez (Spa, 4 oktober 1905 - Etterbeek, 20 mei 1988): concerto composed in 1951. Tonal, very dynamic and energetic in the fast movements. A "religioso" slow movement adds gravitas. Defossez is a conductor/composer well acquainted with Bartok, Prokofiev and Stravinsky.
https://youtu.be/udHa9eWFRGo

Jean Louel (Ostend 1914 - Nijvel 2005): concerto nr. 2 (1945). A short (ca 15 mins.), quasi expressionist , quite angry work. Louel, also a respected conductor, knows how to create tension. Echoes of Bartok, Prokofiev and Ravel.
https://youtu.be/2ICG5ilSKgA

And, for those who, like me,  like Peter Mennin's mighty pianoconcerto two concerti by Czech composers .

Petr Eben. Concerto (1960-1961)
https://youtu.be/iiWJBpRB5f4
Jindrich Feld. Concerto (1973) written for Bozena Steinerova.
https://youtu.be/t8A4xr0MSX0

Both works are very percussive, glitter often with spectacular pianistic athletics and combine intense sadness with rage.
Eben's concerto is only slightly gentler than Feld's powerhouse.

A recent and very gentle French discovery is Jean Jacques Grünenwald's (2 February 1911 – 19 December 1982) Concerto d'été for piano and strings (1944). It should appeal, I think, to those who like Poulenc, Damase, Ibert.

https://youtu.be/E7JESeDWUS4

And this hot, Columbian swinging fantasy! Homenaje a Ginastera by Hector Gonzalez. Fun!
https://youtu.be/8s-qZ9yPBPs

André

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on December 21, 2020, 06:06:52 PM
Some have been superb discoveries:

Mosolov 1
Benoit
Alnaes
Boeck
Bacewicz
Levina 2
Mathieu 4
Carwithen
Vine 1
Papandopulo 3

The Mathieu 4 is on its way, should be here any day. All the others on your list are totally unknown for me !

vandermolen

Absolutely pjme. I'm happy for anyone to suggest any PC. Interesting list and thanks to all for the thoughtful suggestions.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Brahmsian

Quote from: André on December 22, 2020, 05:01:55 AM
The Mathieu 4 is on its way, should be here any day. All the others on your list are totally unknown for me !

I had the pleasure about ten years ago hearing the Mathieu 4 live in concert with Alain Lefévre at the piano. A marvelous work!

André

Quote from: OrchestralNut on December 22, 2020, 05:22:22 AM
I had the pleasure about ten years ago hearing the Mathieu 4 live in concert with Alain Lefévre at the piano. A marvelous work!

As for me, I saw him play Mathieu's Concerto de Québec around the same time  :). He is a very sensitive artist.

Jo498

For me the pieces that come to mind rather fall among the genre Hurwitz also recently had a video on, namely concert pieces often not explicitly called concerto, typically a bit shorter (15-20 min). They are usually from famous composers but have somewhat fallen out of favor (or were never all that popular)

Weber: Concert piece f minor
Schumann: Introduktion & Allegro appassionato (Concert piece) op.92
Liszt: Totentanz
Franck: Symphonic Variations
Strauss: Burleske
Dohnanyi: Variations on a nursery song

Also (regular concertos)
Mosolov op.14
Schulhoff ("alla Jazz")
Blacher Nr. 2
Stravinsky Piano and winds
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- Blaise Pascal

pjme

Excellent selection Jo. And I'm particularly happy to see Stravinsky's Concerto for piano and winds in your list.
As for shorter pieces, I think of the many "Ballades" and "Fantaisies" that were popular in 19th century France.

There's quite a list of compositions that I love:
Fauré:
Ballade pour piano et orchestre, Op. 19
Fantaisie pour piano et orchestre en sol majeur, Op. 111
Debussy:
Fantaisie (1890).
Max d'Ollone : Fantaisie (1897)
Paul Le Flem: Fantaisie (1911)
Charles Koechlin's darkly romantic Ballade opus 50
Louis Vierne wrote a beautiful Poème for piano and orchestra opus 50 (the opening measures are pure magic...)

Jo498

#18
I only know the Faurè and Debussy of the ones you mention and neither very well but did forget about them. There seems to be another somewhat jazz-inspired (but more in the Stravinskian than Gershwin mode) somewhere in my head but I am not sure. I thought de Falla, but that's harpsichord! Among somewhat well known composers Francaix, Poulenc, Honegger, Roussel, Tcherepnin also have shortish pieces/"concertini", also Janacek. Hurwitz does have a point that quite a few of such shorter concertante pieces are comparably neglected.
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- Blaise Pascal

Sergeant Rock

#19
George Lloyd Piano Concertos Nos. 1, 2, 3, 4
Fartein Valen Piano Concerto op. 44

Sarge
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