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Re: 10 favourite 'Lesser-known' piano concertos
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2020, 08:08:06 PM »
The Mathieu 4 is on its way, should be here any day. All the others on your list are totally unknown for me !

Since our tastes overlap in a big margin, I think you could like them, André.
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Re: 10 favourite 'Lesser-known' piano concertos
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2020, 12:52:21 AM »
George Lloyd Piano Concertos Nos. 1, 2, 3, 4
Fartein Valen Piano Concerto op. 44

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Ah, great choices Sarge! I forgot about Lloyd and would include No.1 'Scapegoat' and the epic No.3. Although I like them all. Don't know the Valen so must look out for that one.
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Re: 10 favourite 'Lesser-known' piano concertos
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2020, 04:56:15 AM »
10 favorite piano concertos from the classical era which, I assume, are lesser-known to the original poster.

Wolfl Piano Concerto No 6 "The Cuckoo"
Rosetti Piano Concerto C 2
Benda G Piano Concerto in F Major
Hiller Piano Concerto Op 69
Arne Piano Concerto No 5
Paisiello Piano Concerto No 6
Kozeluch Piano Concerto No 7
Clementi Piano Concerto in C Major
Tomasek Piano Concerto No 1
Field Piano Concerto No 2

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Re: 10 favourite 'Lesser-known' piano concertos
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2020, 05:47:51 AM »
Ah, great choices Sarge! I forgot about Lloyd and would include No.1 'Scapegoat' and the epic No.3. Although I like them all. Don't know the Valen so must look out for that one.

Even if you don't like it, it won't waste much of your time: its three movements weigh in at only eight and a half minutes (in the recording I own), making it the shortest piano concerto I know.

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« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2020, 06:27:00 AM »
Since our tastes overlap in a big margin, I think you could like them, André.

I duly noted them, Cesar  ;)

And since our tastes overlap  :P, do give a chance to this recording of the Panufnik, Szymanski and Lutoslawski concertos:



I didn’t mention the Lutoslawski because he hardly needs advocacy, but his concerto is as fine - and yet wholly different - as the other two on this disc.

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« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2020, 07:42:46 AM »
Even if you don't like it, it won't waste much of your time: its three movements weigh in at only eight and a half minutes (in the recording I own), making it the shortest piano concerto I know.
The Francaix Concertino comes in at ca. 7:30 min.
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Re: 10 favourite 'Lesser-known' piano concertos
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2020, 09:05:14 AM »
I duly noted them, Cesar  ;)

And since our tastes overlap  :P, do give a chance to this recording of the Panufnik, Szymanski and Lutoslawski concertos:



I didn’t mention the Lutoslawski because he hardly needs advocacy, but his concerto is as fine - and yet wholly different - as the other two on this disc.

Sure, André. I'll be investigating the Szymanski.
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Re: 10 favourite 'Lesser-known' piano concertos
« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2020, 09:22:00 AM »
The Francaix Concertino comes in at ca. 7:30 min.

Interesting. I don't know the piece. I'll have to YouTube it.

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Re: 10 favourite 'Lesser-known' piano concertos
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2020, 09:44:13 AM »
Even if you don't like it, it won't waste much of your time: its three movements weigh in at only eight and a half minutes (in the recording I own), making it the shortest piano concerto I know.

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Saint-Saens' "Wedding Cake" is about six minutes.  :D

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« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2020, 10:01:16 AM »
Rakov's 1st Piano Concerto is just 5 1/2 minutes of music, and the 2nd is 7 1/2 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFxkODkr3D4

They aren't of mind-boggling quality, though.

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Re: 10 favourite 'Lesser-known' piano concertos
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2020, 10:33:25 AM »
I love piano concertos. I suppose my 10 'off the beaten track' would be something like:
Alnaes
Lyapunov 1
Scharwenka 4
Kalkbrenner 1 (but maybe 4, which I also love)
Brull 1
Atterberg
Busoni
Stenhammar 1
Lessel (Op. 14)

I'd love to work in a concerto from Czerny or Ries. But I think my final spot will be Bendix.
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Re: 10 favourite 'Lesser-known' piano concertos
« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2020, 01:41:22 PM »
Lessel (Op. 14)

This one suits "Lesser-known" quite well indeed.  :D
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Re: 10 favourite 'Lesser-known' piano concertos
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2020, 01:50:07 PM »
I heartily second most mentioned already (esp. Alnæs, Lloyd, Sauer, Scharwenka 4, etc.) Some not mentioned yet:

L. Anderson
Damase 2
Foulds “Dynamic Triptych”
Garūta
Gipps
Kabalevsky 2
Paderewski
Röntgen 2
Tcherepnin 4 “Fantaisie”
Tveitt 4 “Aurora borealis”
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« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2020, 06:07:43 PM »
Mental note to revisit Viktor Ullmann's concerto, which I haven't heard in 5-6 years.

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Re: 10 favourite 'Lesser-known' piano concertos
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2020, 06:36:21 PM »
Antheil 1 & 2
Carter
Malipiero 1 & 2
Mennin
Schnittke, Cto for pf & strings
Tippett
Wuorinen 3 & 4
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Re: 10 favourite 'Lesser-known' piano concertos
« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2020, 07:31:00 PM »
Dussek - Op. 49 (in G minor) - the equal, in quality and style, of Beethoven's first three
Hummel - Op. 89 (in B minor) - not quite up there with Dussek or Beethoven, but more proto-Romantic, anticipating Chopin and Mendelssohn
Skalkottas -No. 3 - I will grant that not everyone will like this
Busoni - Op. 39 (in C major) - or this
Alkan - Op. 39 nos. 8-10 - the greatest achievement of this piece is achieving all the feats of the traditional concerto without an orchestra, but even if it were arranged for orchestra the musical material is worthwhile enough to make it one of the best romantic era concertos
Ginastera - Op. 28 - a big romantic concerto in a strict twelve-tone idiom. Everyone loves it
Ginastera - Op. 39 - a bit more dependent on the classical canon, a lot harder to play, still usually fun (performance here is not ideal but you get the score)
Gerhard - for piano and strings - couldn't find a score for this one, & it's a bit hard to describe, but you'll know within a minute whether you like it or not
Berio - for two pianos - Berio didn't really write traditional concertante works, he instead used the orchestra as an extension of the solo instrument(s), and this piece is one of the most successful examples
Clementi - for piano and 14 instruments - maybe the only kind of piano concerto it's possible to write post-1945 while retaining any sense of intellectual honesty and integrity
Cage - for prepared piano and chamber orchestra - idem
Liebermann - Op. 36 (in B-flat major) - of course, there's probably an equal amount of integrity required to overtly just discard the twentieth century, rather than trying to put a layer of ironic distance between you and your models

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Re: 10 favourite 'Lesser-known' piano concertos
« Reply #36 on: December 24, 2020, 05:57:30 AM »
Dussek - Op. 49 (in G minor) - the equal, in quality and style, of Beethoven's first three
Hummel - Op. 89 (in B minor) - not quite up there with Dussek or Beethoven, but more proto-Romantic, anticipating Chopin and Mendelssohn
Skalkottas -No. 3 - I will grant that not everyone will like this
Busoni - Op. 39 (in C major) - or this
Alkan - Op. 39 nos. 8-10 - the greatest achievement of this piece is achieving all the feats of the traditional concerto without an orchestra, but even if it were arranged for orchestra the musical material is worthwhile enough to make it one of the best romantic era concertos
Ginastera - Op. 28 - a big romantic concerto in a strict twelve-tone idiom. Everyone loves it
Ginastera - Op. 39 - a bit more dependent on the classical canon, a lot harder to play, still usually fun (performance here is not ideal but you get the score)

Gerhard - for piano and strings - couldn't find a score for this one, & it's a bit hard to describe, but you'll know within a minute whether you like it or not
Berio - for two pianos - Berio didn't really write traditional concertante works, he instead used the orchestra as an extension of the solo instrument(s), and this piece is one of the most successful examples
Clementi - for piano and 14 instruments - maybe the only kind of piano concerto it's possible to write post-1945 while retaining any sense of intellectual honesty and integrity
Cage - for prepared piano and chamber orchestra - idem
Liebermann - Op. 36 (in B-flat major) - of course, there's probably an equal amount of integrity required to overtly just discard the twentieth century, rather than trying to put a layer of ironic distance between you and your models

The only ones I know from your list. No 1 is also on mine. A big thumbs up  :)
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Re: 10 favourite 'Lesser-known' piano concertos
« Reply #37 on: December 24, 2020, 08:13:18 AM »
My favourite 'little-known' piano concerto remains the Concerto for two pianos and orchestra (1948) by Lennox Berkeley. Can add another ten, but this one will remain my main recommendation.  :)
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Re: 10 favourite 'Lesser-known' piano concertos
« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2021, 10:25:19 AM »
My favourite 'little-known' piano concerto remains the Concerto for two pianos and orchestra (1948) by Lennox Berkeley. Can add another ten, but this one will remain my main recommendation.  :)
Great work.
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