Turntableism

[Mandryka]

Please recommend me your favourite recordings.

[André Le Nôtre]

a few off the top of my head (there are many more in this and other genres). As you can see, my tastes tend toward the older mono/historic stuff, but I also do love great stereo recordings as well.

Janos Starker playing Kodaly Sonata for Unaccompanied Cello, OP 8; Period

Gioconda de Vito/Edwin Fischer playing Brahms sonatas 1, 3; Angel/EMI

Kai Laursen playing violin music of Karl Nielsen; Washington

Klemens Krauss/VPO playing Strauss Also Sprach Zarathustra; London

Pierre Monteux conducting Haydn symphonies (incl. "clock"); RCA Victor Living Stereo

Mischa Elman/Joseph Seiger  playing Grieg Sonatas; Decca/London

Janos Starker playing Bach suites--TWO sets; one on Period (my favorite); one on Mercury

Ossy Renardy/Charles Munch, Brahms Concerto; Remington

Paul Badura-Skoda, Beethoven Op. 111; Harmonia Mundi (French)

Music of Ancient Greece; Harmonia Mundi (French) <---One of the best-sounding recordings ever made

Jennie Tourel/Paul Ulanoswky, A French/Italian Program: London/Decca

Elisabeth Schwarzkopf/Furtwängler (piano!), Wolf Songs; EMI

Boris Christoff, Glinka songs; EMI

Joseph Szigeti/Leonid Hambro (?), Prokofieff Sonatas; Columbia

Vlado Perlemuter, Piano music of Ravel; VOX set


There are many more...

[Mandryka]

I give up.

[André Le Nôtre]

I give up.

Not sure what you are asking here if not for recommendations for recordings on LP. Guess I'm not cool enough for you. (You would do well do listen to some of this music BTW!!)

My mother AND my aunt just died of COVID-19 last week, and in the midst of a lockdown, I was just looking for some human interaction.

I give up.

[Mandryka]

Not sure what you are asking here if not for recommendations for recordings on LP. Guess I'm not cool enough for you.

My mother AND my aunt just died of COVID-19 last week, and in the midst of a lockdown, I was just looking for some human interaction.

I give up.

Sorry, you have human interaction! And I didn't mean any offence, it's just that I saw the big list, got all excited, and looked carefully, and realised what had happened. And of course I'm sorry for your mother and aunt, we live in tough times.

As far as your sort of turnbableism goes, I don't do it and haven't done since 1990 or thereabouts. But sometimes I toy with the idea of learning how to make digital transfers. I of course heard some of the recordings you mentioned.

The Music of Ancient Greece, is that Conrad Steinmann with Andrea Savall? If so I know it well, I have a transfer, it is wonderful.

[Mandryka]

And just to be clear, this is real turntableism!


https://www.youtube.com/v/ta0vKwNYg0E

[T. D.]

Not classical, rather a hybrid of notated/improv/free jazz, but I've started listening to Lawrence D. "Butch" Morris's Conductions, and quite a few of these include turntables (some operated by the aforementioned Christian Marclay). I like what I've heard, just listened to Conductions #39E and #40E with turntables.
Some too-brief clips at https://www.newworldrecords.org/products/testament-a-conduction-collection-conductions-38-39-40
Many of the New World recordings on Youtube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyYMu-GxnaU

[71 dB]

And just to be clear, this is real turntableism!


https://www.youtube.com/v/ta0vKwNYg0E

I was also ignorant enough to think this thread is about vinyl LPs.  Never heard of turntableism before and it sound pretty weird. The closest of the music I listen to this comes perhaps Australian band The Avalanches:

https://www.youtube.com/v/qLrnkK2YEcE

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[Hans Holbein]

Martin Tetreault & Xavier Charles - MXCT
Martin Tetreault & Otomo Yoshihide - 21 Situations
Christian Marclay & Otomo Yoshihide - Moving Parts
Many Philip Jeck recordings (and BTW he was the turntablist on the recording of Bryars' "Titanic" mentioned upthread).

[Mandryka]

it sound pretty weird.

We are very far from Bach, Mozart and Beethoven with this sort of music.

But at another level, when Bach used the E flat major chord at the start of the Eroica, he was helping himself to an artefact he found in common practice tonality. When turntableists use samples of records, they are also using found artefacts. It's the same thing. All art is sample.

[prémont]

...... when Bach used the E flat major chord at the start of the Eroica.....

Breaking news !

[Mandryka]

Breaking news !

All the Bs are the same as far as I'm concerned.

[Mandryka]

Martin Tetreault & Otomo Yoshihide - 21 Situations

Excellent, looking forward to hearing the rest.

[71 dB]

We are very far from Bach, Mozart and Beethoven with this sort of music.

Sure, but it sounds weird for my ears because I have never before even heard about this "genre/style", which is weird in itself. When was Turntableism invented? 10 years ago? 20 years ago? Who was the pioneer? Where in the World is this music made? Anywhere? Why are you into it yourself? So many questions...

There's so many genres and sub genres nowadays nobody can know them all. For example, do you know what Neurofunk is? 

[Mandryka]

Sure, but it sounds weird for my ears because I have never before even heard about this "genre/style", which is weird in itself. When was Turntableism invented? 10 years ago? 20 years ago? Who was the pioneer? Where in the World is this music made? Anywhere? Why are you into it yourself? So many questions...

You have to go back to Schaeffer and Henry I think.

[71 dB]

You have to go back to Schaeffer and Henry I think.

Oh, okay. That starts to explain things. My knowledge of music movements of that time period is very weak. For example "electronic music" of the 50's and 60's is for the most part silly for my ears. Sinewave and white noise generators.    Imo in the 70's the technology started to be adequate to create good electronic music, but even at that time it was clumsy.

[Mandryka]

Oh, okay. That starts to explain things. My knowledge of music movements of that time period is very weak. For example "electronic music" of the 50's and 60's is for the most part silly for my ears. Sinewave and white noise generators.    Imo in the 70's the technology started to be adequate to create good electronic music, but even at that time it was clumsy.

Well the most impressive piece of electronic music I've heard is Stockhausen's Hymnen III and IV, 1968. When that man interrupts the white noise and sine waves and says bizarrely "faites votre jeu messieurs" it is like I'm taken to another planet.

[prémont]

Sure, but it sounds weird for my ears because I have never before even heard about this "genre/style", which is weird in itself.

My first thought when I saw  the word Turntablism was DJ. But this is obviously only part of the concept. It seems to be about a very advanced DJ-ism.

And now to some music.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Not sure what you are asking here if not for recommendations for recordings on LP. Guess I'm not cool enough for you. (You would do well do listen to some of this music BTW!!)

My mother AND my aunt just died of COVID-19 last week, and in the midst of a lockdown, I was just looking for some human interaction.

I give up.

André,

I am so very sorry to hear of your losses!  One of which would be hard enough to cope with.

Like you, I thought that Mandryka was asking about favorite recordings on LP, but was also a bit confused as there is also already a thread on vinyl.

All the best wishes to you and your family,

PD

[T. D.]

Whoa, forgot about this one which I purchased long ago:



You (Mandryka) might like it, esp. considering repertoire. Christian Marclay plays (?) some turntables.

Wiki: SYR4 featured works by avant-garde classical composers such as John Cage, Yoko Ono, Steve Reich and Christian Wolff*, played by Sonic Youth and several collaborators from the modern avant-garde music scene, such as Christian Marclay, William Winant, Wharton Tiers and Takehisa Kosugi.

*Also [T.D.] Cardew, Oliveros, George Maciunas (of Fluxus "fame").