Turntableism

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DavidW

Quote from: (: premont :) on March 05, 2021, 03:44:50 AM
My first thought when I saw  the word Turntablism was DJ.

My first thought was "this is Mandryka so he is probably asking about the sound of a turntable falling into a black holes as clocks melt, the dwarf speaks in reverse and this is not a pipe."  Not surprised that I wasn't far off. $:)

Mandryka

Quote from: DavidW on March 05, 2021, 08:36:55 AM
My first thought was "this is Mandryka so he is probably asking about the sound of a turntable falling into a black holes as clocks melt, the dwarf speaks in reverse and this is not a pipe."  Not surprised that I wasn't far off. $:)

I especially enjoy the dwarf speaking in reverse. Fire walk with me.
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Szykneij

Men profess to be lovers of music, but for the most part they give no evidence in their opinions and lives that they have heard it.  ~ Henry David Thoreau

Don't pray when it rains if you don't pray when the sun shines. ~ Satchel Paige

Iota

Quote from: Mandryka on March 05, 2021, 09:14:38 AM
I especially enjoy the dwarf speaking in reverse. Fire walk with me.

What a moment in televisual history that was! I and a Japanese woman I was sharing a flat with at the time, were both obsessed with that series!

Mandryka

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Mandryka



Philip Jeck, Sand. Immersive, introverted, richly polyphonic, expressive - often melancholic. Genius.
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Mandryka

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And a fabulous, haunting, thing on this, on Spotify , half an hour or more, called Phase of Post Music, I chose the word "haunting" carefully. It is now my favourite track of Christmas music!

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steve ridgway

Quote from: 71 dB on March 05, 2021, 01:38:20 AM
When was Turntableism invented? 10 years ago? 20 years ago? Who was the pioneer?

John Cage - Imaginary Landscape No. 1, for two variable-speed phono turntables, frequency recordings, muted piano and cymbal (1939).

Rinaldo

Jeck is very interesting, so is Marclay.

From a less experimental bag, this is actually one of my all-time favourite records: Kaleidoscope by the collective DJ Food.

https://www.youtube.com/v/FPfkK0Jl2Wo

Their sampling is all over the place, they even nip a bit of Verklärte Nacht, to great effect:

https://www.youtube.com/v/ytDdPZgHlfE

Hans Holbein

Not quite turntablism, strictly speaking, but possibly relevant to the interest of some here:

The Caretaker (Leyland Kirby) - Everywhere at the end of time
A 6.5-hour piece (series of albums, really) using 78s of dance bands as the raw material - lightly processed and edited at first; increasingly unrecognizable as the piece progresses.
https://youtu.be/wJWksPWDKOc

He also did a piece based on old Winterreise recordings - mostly Gerhard Husch.
https://youtu.be/C5PFGj9Z0cg

Rinaldo

Quote from: Hans Holbein on March 17, 2021, 09:29:23 PM
Not quite turntablism, strictly speaking, but possibly relevant to the interest of some here:

The Caretaker (Leyland Kirby) - Everywhere at the end of time
A 6.5-hour piece (series of albums, really) using 78s of dance bands as the raw material - lightly processed and edited at first; increasingly unrecognizable as the piece progresses.
https://youtu.be/wJWksPWDKOc

He also did a piece based on old Winterreise recordings - mostly Gerhard Husch.
https://youtu.be/C5PFGj9Z0cg

Now we're talking! It's interesting to see these hauntological ventures mutating into the mainstream. Nowadays videos like this one – Oldies playing in the car and it's raining – get over million views in a few months.

Mandryka

Quote from: Rinaldo on March 18, 2021, 01:26:37 AM
Now we're talking! It's interesting to see these hauntological ventures mutating into the mainstream. Nowadays videos like this one – Oldies playing in the car and it's raining – get over million views in a few months.

Is Jeck a hauntologist?
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Rinaldo

Quote from: Mandryka on March 18, 2021, 02:03:31 AM
Is Jeck a hauntologist?

I think he fits that label but not by his own words, no.

QuoteDavid Toop has talked of the inexpicably mournful character of Jeck's work, while Mark Fisher has used the concept of 'hauntology' (from the work of French philosopher Jacques Derrida) to explain its eerie nostalgia and uncanny sense of loss. Jeck himself claims to have little time for analysis: "Once I've made a CD or played a concert and that has gone out into the world, anyone can place it in their own view or understanding of music, sound or the world. And that is interesting to me — but what it sounds like is paramount."

From The Marks Of History: Philip Jeck And The Outer Reaches Of Turntablism

Mandryka

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Mandryka

Philip Jeck has died, sadly.
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