Started by Papy Oli, April 01, 2021, 02:34:23 AM
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Quote from: Papy Oli on June 15, 2021, 06:13:40 AMis there a stat somewhere on how often a team finishing top of the ladder actually ended up winning the Grand Final ? Just wondered.
Quote from: Madiel on June 17, 2021, 04:01:58 AMNot that I'm aware of. It's probably out there somewhere.They changed the finals system in 2000. Before that for a few years they used the mathematically more appropriate McIntyre system: starting with 1v8, 2v7, 3v6 and 4v5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL_final_eight_systemhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McIntyre_Final_Eight_SystemAnd for many years when the competition was smaller it was only the top 5 teams, not the top 8. Apparently it was top 6 for a little while in between.
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 17, 2021, 04:14:14 AMWhy make it simple when we can make it complicated, in both cases really ! A straight shoot-out playoff would have been too easy :laugh:(one sleep !!!! )
Quote from: Madiel on June 17, 2021, 04:18:14 AMYou're European. You're not used to finals series...I think it was the rugby league rather than the AFL that got rid of the McIntyre system partially because of the year that 5th defeated 4th, 6th defeated 3rd, 7th defeated 2nd and 8th defeated 1st. The fact that this was only a 1 in 16 random chance, and even less likely if teams played according to form, didn't stop the howls of outrage when 3rd and 4th were abruptly eliminated.
Quote from: Madiel on June 17, 2021, 05:06:09 AMYeah, but why have "sense" when you can have drama and excitement? And more ticket sales?I do, on the whole, like finals series myself, but then on the whole I don't have teams that I support in a one-eyed fashion such that I can't enjoy the outcomes.I think I've mentioned before the sensational season where the top 7 teams on the ladder were very evenly matched, and Western Bulldogs won from 7th place. Truly a year to convince you of the potential of finals.As for the whole Geelong thing, I don't want to get to the end of the season and discover that you've abandoned the sport because you didn't get your fairytale. Traditionally you're supposed to keep coming back year after year hoping that THIS time it's going to finally work out. Like the work colleague who comes from a Melbourne-supporting family. He's not old enough to have ever seen a premiership...
Quote from: Madiel on June 18, 2021, 08:34:47 PMI confess I stopped watching, just wasn't in the right mood.Judging by that scoreline, though, it would have been worth watching.
Quote from: Madiel on June 24, 2021, 03:13:34 AMI confess to tipping against them. Partly because, after what happened in the last Brisbane v Geelong game, I thought Brisbane was likely to be in a bad mood. :laugh:
Quote from: Papy Oli on June 28, 2021, 03:25:09 AMI assume Richmond threw a spanner in the betting works ?
QuoteAny thoughts on the ladder ? it looks...interesting. 12 pts clear from 8th doesn't really feel like that much right now
Quote from: Madiel on June 28, 2021, 03:47:20 AMYes, but I was quite bad enough without them. It's my brother-in-law who is suffering the greater trauma. We were actually at the game where Richmond had set the previous record low in our lifetime, so now we don't even have that... :laugh:
Quote from: Madiel on June 28, 2021, 03:47:20 AM3 wins is a fair margin at this stage. To be honest what strikes me is the clear gap between the top 5 and the rest. It's of course possible for someone to have a surge in form, but you'd expect the premier to come from that pack of 5. Sportsbet still apparently believes that Richmond and West Coast have potential, but they don't have good odds for anyone outside the top 8 and I don't think you'd find many commentators who would have a different opinion.
Quote from: Holden on May 01, 2021, 03:17:48 AMGold Coast had another win.
Quote from: Papy Oli on July 01, 2021, 04:03:32 AMAnd a great gritty one just now vs Richmond, Holden. Nice one !
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