Musical Taste and Ideological Predisposition

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Florestan

Quote from: Florestan on June 13, 2025, 09:18:00 AMPolitically, economically and culturally I'm a pragmatic liberal; socially, a moderate conservative.

Just to avoid any misunderstanding: "liberal" above should be taken in its European meaning, not the US one. In strictly European terms, I'm a centrist Christian Democrat. In strictly US terms, I have absolutely no idea whatsoever what I am. To the best of my knowledge, I might fit in a certain section of the Democratic Party as well as in a certain section of the Republican Party. One thing I know for sure, though: I strongly reject both MAGA and woke ideologies. 
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

ritter

So, the takeaway here, dear Florestan, is that holding sensible political views is not incompatible with having dubious musical taste, right?  :laugh:
 « Et n'oubliez pas que le trombone est à Voltaire ce que l'optimisme est à la percussion. » 

Florestan

Quote from: ritter on June 14, 2025, 11:38:23 AMSo, the takeaway here, dear Florestan, is that holding sensible political views is not incompatible with having dubious musical taste, right?  :laugh:

Or the other way around, depending on perspective.  :laugh:



"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Christo

Quote from: Florestan on June 13, 2025, 09:18:00 AMPolitically, economically and culturally I'm a pragmatic liberal; socially, a moderate conservative.

My Top 5 composers are Haydn, Mozart, Rossini, Schubert, Chopin. .

I doubt that the latter statement can be derived from the former or vice-versa.
From now on, I will consider these five composers to be extremely right-wing, nationalist, whatever. Because: no Low-Saxons among them. ;)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Florestan

Quote from: Christo on June 18, 2025, 10:33:13 AMFrom now on, I will consider these five composers to be extremely right-wing, nationalist, whatever. Because: no Low-Saxons among them. ;)

To paraphrase Saul Bellow: show me the Mozart and the Rossini of the Low Saxons and I'll gladly listen to their music.  ;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Christo

Quote from: Florestan on June 19, 2025, 02:49:14 AMTo paraphrase Saul Bellow: show me the Mozart and the Rossini of the Low Saxons and I'll gladly listen to their music.  ;D
You already do, for the better part of the life. Technically, all composers born & bred above the Benrather Linie are Low Saxons, from Telemaqnn to Brahms. I guess you heard of them. :)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Florestan

Quote from: Christo on June 19, 2025, 02:59:06 AMYou already do, for the better part of the life. Technically, all composers born & bred above the Benrather Linie are Low Saxons, from Telemaqnn to Brahms. I guess you heard of them. :)

Ha ha, I saw it coming. :D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy