Started by Simula, August 16, 2016, 05:14:24 PM
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Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 26, 2016, 03:34:43 PMJust like Schoenberg, I will always be completely obvious oblivious to why people have the negative reactions they do.
Quote from: Jo498 on August 27, 2016, 12:17:35 AMI don't know a lot of Stockhausen but I find it hard to deny that it is obviously music.
Quote from: Mirror Image on August 26, 2016, 07:12:54 PMBecause they don't like the music. They don't respond to it. I mean it happens and it shouldn't be any sweat off your back if someone doesn't like the same composers you like. Let's face it: Schoenberg is a hard sell.
Quote from: karlhenning on August 27, 2016, 04:50:12 AMWell, but they do respond, many of them, the response being "Why can't this be like the nice music I prefer?"And on the last point: no, Schoenberg is not absolutely a hard sell. Many of us who like Schoenberg, have liked his music from the very first note; no hard sell there, we were the softest of touches.
Quote from: karlhenning on August 27, 2016, 05:11:05 AMWell, we all do speak from personal experience, of course
Quote from: Mirror Image on August 27, 2016, 05:03:34 AMI like Schoenberg a lot as well and I suppose I'm speaking more from personal experience than anything. Of course, I loved works like Verklarte Nacht and Pelleas und Melisande right away, but his atonal music took some time for me to process.
Quote from: karlhenning on August 27, 2016, 05:28:31 AMAnd there is nothing wrong, either, with taking time to process. It may seem on the surface contradictory . . . as I say, Schoenberg (heck, even the Berg Kammerkonzert) hit me just right, the very first time I listened; yet, I think it a nearly moral error, to demand that music have something to say to us, in a way that we can understand it, right now.It is, I suppose, in fact an uneven dialogue, and the artist has, at the last, the dominant voice in the conversation.
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