Author Topic: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.  (Read 321 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Tsaraslondon

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 3123
    • My blog
  • Location: London, UK
\"A beautiful voice is not enough.\" Maria Callas

Offline Mirror Image

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 54425
  • Gustav Mahler (1860 - 1911)
  • Location: Northeast GA, US
  • Currently Listening to:
    Entartete Musik
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2021, 06:09:01 PM »
R.I.P. She had an absolutely stunning voice and she really got inside the music she sung like no other. A legend who turned in so many incredible performances. She lived a full life and she will not be forgotten.
Don’t forget your four A’s, folks: Alex, Arnie, Alban and Anton


Offline Crudblud

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 620
  • Location: Multiple Fridge-Freezers
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2021, 10:09:25 PM »
A long life full of great music making. I will always treasure her recording of Mahler's Das Lied with Wunderlich and Klemperer.

Offline Biffo

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 2736
  • Location: United Kingdom
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2021, 12:30:56 AM »
A long life full of great music making. I will always treasure her recording of Mahler's Das Lied with Wunderlich and Klemperer.

I was going to post exactly the same.

R.I.P.

Offline vandermolen

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 20710
  • Location: Rotherfield, Sussex, UK
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2021, 03:37:30 AM »
Sad news indeed.

Coincidentally I recently came across this interesting clip of her disagreeing with Leonard Bernstein at a Mahler rehearsal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f32bhICi-zI&t=1s
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Online OrchestralNut

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 4388
  • Cesar Franck, or Hugh Jackman as Wolverine
  • Location: Winnipeg, Canada
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2021, 03:53:47 AM »
Sad news indeed.

Coincidentally I recently came across this interesting clip of her disagreeing with Leonard Bernstein at a Mahler rehearsal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f32bhICi-zI&t=1s

R.I.P. Frau Ludwig.  I also recently viewed this video clip.

Offline vandermolen

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 20710
  • Location: Rotherfield, Sussex, UK
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2021, 05:15:11 AM »
I will play this later In Memoriam:

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Offline Mirror Image

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 54425
  • Gustav Mahler (1860 - 1911)
  • Location: Northeast GA, US
  • Currently Listening to:
    Entartete Musik
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2021, 08:32:50 AM »
I think as a memorial to Ludwig, I’ll be listening to her recording of Mahler's Rückert-Lieder (w/ HvK/Berliners).
Don’t forget your four A’s, folks: Alex, Arnie, Alban and Anton


Offline Mirror Image

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 54425
  • Gustav Mahler (1860 - 1911)
  • Location: Northeast GA, US
  • Currently Listening to:
    Entartete Musik
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2021, 09:51:29 AM »
Sad news indeed.

Coincidentally I recently came across this interesting clip of her disagreeing with Leonard Bernstein at a Mahler rehearsal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f32bhICi-zI&t=1s

Ah yes, this was interesting --- it seems that basically she was saying that the tempo was too fast. Bernstein’s comment that nobody can understand the words anyway was kind of humorous. :)
Don’t forget your four A’s, folks: Alex, Arnie, Alban and Anton


Offline Florestan

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 21709
  • Location: Bucharest, Romania
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2021, 10:28:13 AM »
A great singer. May God rest her in peace.
What is Music? How do you define it? Music is a calm moonlit night, the rustle of leaves in Summer. Music is the far off peal of bells at dusk! Music comes straight from the heart and talks only to the heart: it is Love!  --- Rachmaninoff

Offline vandermolen

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 20710
  • Location: Rotherfield, Sussex, UK
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2021, 01:16:20 PM »
Ah yes, this was interesting --- it seems that basically she was saying that the tempo was too fast. Bernstein’s comment that nobody can understand the words anyway was kind of humorous. :)

Yes, I agree!
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Offline André

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 10239
  • Location: Laval, QC
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2021, 03:02:55 PM »
She had a beautiful voice, one of the most reliable and secure across the range. She seldom poured her heart and soul in her singing roles IMHO. Somewhat like Flagstad in a sense. But when she was on, no mezzo could rival her.

Maybe her most famous recording, one that to this day still tops the competition, is her impersonation of Judith in Bartok’s Bluebeard’s Castle. For me, the disc of hers that really displays her vocal and histrionic powers is this one:




Her assumption - for the studio only of course - of straussian and wagnerian roles such as Elektra, Ariadne and Brünnhilde is a stunning feat. She rips through this demanding music with real diva gusto. Excellent support from hubby Walter Berry and conductor Heinrich Hollreiser. Very good sound, too.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2021, 03:05:09 PM by André »

Offline Mirror Image

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 54425
  • Gustav Mahler (1860 - 1911)
  • Location: Northeast GA, US
  • Currently Listening to:
    Entartete Musik
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2021, 03:48:28 PM »
Maybe her most famous recording, one that to this day still tops the competition, is her impersonation of Judith in Bartok’s Bluebeard’s Castle.

I know this isn’t the thread for voicing a dissenting opinion, but I couldn’t disagree more. While I do acknowledge that Ludwig is an incredibly fine Judith, I don’t think she’s the only one who did a lot of the character. Tatiana Troyanos, Júlia Várady and Anne Sofie von Otter all offer different perspectives of the character and each is hugely successful in my book.
Don’t forget your four A’s, folks: Alex, Arnie, Alban and Anton


Offline vandermolen

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 20710
  • Location: Rotherfield, Sussex, UK
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2021, 10:49:15 PM »
She presumably forgave Bernstein for the dispute over the tempo of 'Das Lied von der Erde' as they went on to make some fine recordings together - not least Bernstein's own 'Jeremiah Symphony'.
Here's a nice photo of them together:
https://www.operanews.com/Opera_News_Magazine/2021/4/News/Christa_Ludwig,_93,_Beloved_German_Mezzo_Whose_Five-Decade_Career_is_Unparalleled,_has_Died.html

Here is a nice clip of her singing an extract from Bernstein's 'Candide':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLnLYfCJbik
« Last Edit: April 26, 2021, 11:50:29 PM by vandermolen »
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Offline Roasted Swan

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 1340
  • Location: UK
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2021, 01:26:37 AM »
I've mentioned here before I worked in Italy for the Opera House in Parma back in the 80's.  The end of the 84-85 season involved 9 performances of Mahler 2 in 10 days(!).  It was recorded and released as;



Now I don't make any great claims for this as a recording or performance (apart from anything else we played in different venues with very different acoustics which you can hear in the recording!).  BUT having the extraordinary Christa Ludwig singing the Urlicht every night was truly one of my great/most cherished performing experiences.  Especially since the layout of the strings meant that I was sitting about 6 feet away from Ms Ludwig.  She just radiated benevolent calm authority even before she sang a note.  It was an honour to share a stage with her.....

Offline ritter

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 7063
  • Raoul Dufy, "Tragédie, Comédie"
  • Location: "La Villa y Corte"
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2021, 03:02:19 AM »
I've mentioned here before I worked in Italy for the Opera House in Parma back in the 80's.  The end of the 84-85 season involved 9 performances of Mahler 2 in 10 days(!).  It was recorded and released as;



Now I don't make any great claims for this as a recording or performance (apart from anything else we played in different venues with very different acoustics which you can hear in the recording!).  BUT having the extraordinary Christa Ludwig singing the Urlicht every night was truly one of my great/most cherished performing experiences.  Especially since the layout of the strings meant that I was sitting about 6 feet away from Ms Ludwig.  She just radiated benevolent calm authority even before she sang a note.  It was an honour to share a stage with her.....
Wonderful, RS! What a privilege. Must have been a great experience!

I do not know that particular recording (it looks great, not just because of the wonderful Ludwig, but also because I suppose Cecilia Gasdia will be lovely in the soprano part). I do have the Mahler 5 with the same forces (and from around the same time), which I got for the Giacomo Manzini piece--Dedica--that was used as a filler. Were you involved in those performances as well?

Regards,

ritter
-------------------------------------------------------------
«Ognuno sta solo sul cuor della terra
trafitto da un raggio di sole:
ed è subito sera.»

Offline Roasted Swan

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • Posts: 1340
  • Location: UK
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2021, 06:01:17 AM »
Wonderful, RS! What a privilege. Must have been a great experience!

I do not know that particular recording (it looks great, not just because of the wonderful Ludwig, but also because I suppose Cecilia Gasdia will be lovely in the soprano part). I do have the Mahler 5 with the same forces (and from around the same time), which I got for the Giacomo Manzini piece--Dedica--that was used as a filler. Were you involved in those performances as well?

Regards,

No I didn't do the Mahler 5 - I think that was a bit later?  The Mahler 2 concerts were the very end of the season and after that I moved back the UK.  Probably my biggest regret was not staying in Parma longer.  I was offered an extended contract but turned it down (idiot!)  Neuhold was/is a very good conductor - nothing flashy but a real and deep understanding of the music he conducted.

Offline vandermolen

  • Veteran member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 20710
  • Location: Rotherfield, Sussex, UK
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2021, 07:22:33 AM »
I've mentioned here before I worked in Italy for the Opera House in Parma back in the 80's.  The end of the 84-85 season involved 9 performances of Mahler 2 in 10 days(!).  It was recorded and released as;



Now I don't make any great claims for this as a recording or performance (apart from anything else we played in different venues with very different acoustics which you can hear in the recording!).  BUT having the extraordinary Christa Ludwig singing the Urlicht every night was truly one of my great/most cherished performing experiences.  Especially since the layout of the strings meant that I was sitting about 6 feet away from Ms Ludwig.  She just radiated benevolent calm authority even before she sang a note.  It was an honour to share a stage with her.....
What a wonderful experience RS!
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Offline Spotted Horses

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 31
  • Formerly Baron Scarpia
  • Location: Texas, USA
Re: Christa Ludwig R.I.P.
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2021, 07:43:54 AM »
I've mentioned here before I worked in Italy for the Opera House in Parma back in the 80's.  The end of the 84-85 season involved 9 performances of Mahler 2 in 10 days(!).  It was recorded and released as;



Now I don't make any great claims for this as a recording or performance (apart from anything else we played in different venues with very different acoustics which you can hear in the recording!).  BUT having the extraordinary Christa Ludwig singing the Urlicht every night was truly one of my great/most cherished performing experiences.  Especially since the layout of the strings meant that I was sitting about 6 feet away from Ms Ludwig.  She just radiated benevolent calm authority even before she sang a note.  It was an honour to share a stage with her.....

It's a Mahler recording so I assume the painting is by Klimpt.