Started by Mirror Image, July 27, 2021, 04:27:06 PM
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Quote from: Symphonic Addict on July 27, 2021, 08:13:09 PMAs my avatar is the great Dane, he's probably my favorite symphonist ever.The other two are Dvorak and Shostakovich.
Quote from: Mirror Image on July 27, 2021, 08:14:46 PMThese very well could've been my own choices, Cesar.
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on July 27, 2021, 08:20:19 PMI could change Dvorak for Sibelius. Even though his [Sibelius] symphonies 3 and 4 are not so close to me, he's definitely an indispensable composer.
Quote from: Mirror Image on July 27, 2021, 08:26:20 PMSibelius' 4th is the symphony that made me finally understand this composer, so I'll always have a sentimental attachment to it, but, also, the slow movement is absolutely gut-wrenchingly honest, brutal even, and it hit me like a ton of bricks when it finally clicked for me. For me, and this is just my opinion, but if you don't understand the 4th, then you don't really understand the composer. It's kind of like Nielsen's 5th. If you don't like this symphony, then there's a good chance you're not as big of a fan of the composer as you think you are.
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on July 27, 2021, 08:41:50 PMI've come to grips with Sibelius's 4th over the last months. It's not as impenetrable as I initially perceived. For me it's his most psychological and personal. In the case of Nielsen's 5th, I DO love it, and I understand it pretty well. In fact, I really love all of his 6 symphonies, which doesn't happen with Sibelius, whose symphonies 1, 2, 5 and 7 are truly special to me.
Quote from: Mirror Image on July 27, 2021, 08:55:10 PMWell, I love all of Sibelius' and Nielsen's symphonies. No love for Sibelius' 6th either? Yikes! I certainly understand that the 4th and 6th are the most elusive of the Sibelius symphonies, but I think this is a good thing --- it just means you have to keep trying. The 4th and 6th are actually the symphonies that gave the most difficulty, but I've come to regard them as masterpieces and there's nothing like them. This kind of reminds me of how I finally came around to a work like Night Ride & Sunrise. This work was even more elusive to me than the 4th or 6th symphonies. I remember reading something that someone wrote (maybe a critic or just a long-time listener) and they said that Sibelius' music is like the musical depiction of a remote, desolate land where there's no sign of human contact and it basically only exists because the environment has found a way to replenish itself. Bear in mind, I'm paraphrasing here, but it was a interesting thought and it made me do some thinking as well. Nielsen's music is quite the opposite I feel --- it's as if he feeds off energy and life. I often think of his music as some kind of organic life force that runs off sunlight and gains momentum the longer it's able to flourish. Does any of this make any sense? Probably not.
Quote from: Mirror Image on July 27, 2021, 04:27:06 PMApologies if this thread has been done before as I did a search and nothing came up, but anyway who are your three choices?Mine are (in no particular order):MahlerBrucknerSibelius
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on July 28, 2021, 04:54:54 AMHavergal BrianHaydnMahler
Quote from: Raymond on July 28, 2021, 03:49:21 AMYes. I always thought that humans/humanity are absent from Sibelius. The symphonies anyway, but they even seem to take a back step in the tone poems. But he has an extraordinary gift of expressing nature, especially of course the northern regions.
Quote from: kyjo on July 28, 2021, 07:30:39 AMWell, that's easy! My top 3 symphonists also happen to be my 3 favorite composers: Sibelius, Dvorak, and Atterberg. My nos. 4 and 5 would be Nielsen and Vaughan Williams, btw.
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