Quiz: Mystery scores

[Larry Rinkel]

mind you, this is Delius, the whole thing is blurring before my very ears....

He does have that effect . . . .

[lukeottevanger]

Though not in the piece that I have quoted, I must say....

[Mark G. Simon]

My recording of Sea Drift (Sir Thomas Beecham) also has

Arabesk on it. Is this the piece?

[greg]

My recording of Sea Drift (Sir Thomas Beecham) also has

Arabesk on it. Is this the piece?

nope...... maybe if i didn't erase the lyrics it would have been easier 

[lukeottevanger]

A (slightly educated) guess - Songs of Farewell?

[lukeottevanger]

Or (to cover another base) Songs of Sunset - I have the score to that one, and don't remember this page in it, but that means nothing....

[lukeottevanger]

It's Songs of Sunset - turns out that is the one I have the score to (from IMSLP - di you get it there too Greg?)

[Mark G. Simon]

It's Songs of Sunset - turns out that is the one I have the score to (from IMSLP - di you get it there too Greg?)

I've never been able to sit all the way through this one. I suppose I must have gotten as far as page 36 though. It sounds very familiar.

(maybe that's because all Delius really does sound alike)

[lukeottevanger]

Me too - I don't remember much beyond the first few pages, and wasn't even that sure if I had this score or not! That's the depth of impression it had made on me! But at the same time, I hate being so quick to judge - it is consummate, marvellous music of its type, and if this kind of thing is what one wants (and sometimes it is what I want) you can't do better than Delius at his best.

Which - to repeat - my own Delius sample is.

[greg]

It's Songs of Sunset - turns out that is the one I have the score to (from IMSLP - di you get it there too Greg?)

yes and yes

[lukeottevanger]

Whilst the reasons behind it are nothing to do with this thread (I assume), the fact that Larry has gone guest is a real kick in the teeth for our little quiz.  Come back quickly, Larry. 

[Maciek]

I'd love to join in but I have to admit: the number of unguessed scores overwhelms me. Out of Luke's quizzes alone there are around 30 still left, and to that you have to add a few posted by others. I simply don't know where/how to start or where to look for clues...  I was going to add a few of my own but I think I'd better wait a while, until at least 20 more have been guessed...

Just to encourage others: it took me a while but I've found the updated (? - hopefully) list here.

[lukeottevanger]

There are only three left which aren't mine, though, so please feel free to post more.... I've hardly got anything to work on!

The most recent clues to my remaining ones - this must be the fourth or fifth set of clues for some of them! - are in the post above the one you just linked to. I'd love to, but I simply can't give any more. But do remember, some of my pieces are by very famous composers indeed (we're talking those that would make most listeners' top 10). Two in particular spring to mind - one, a German with a beard, was a friend, admirer and sometime promoter of the other, a younger Czech, also with a beard.

[Maciek]

The most recent clues to my remaining ones - this must be the fourth or fifth set of clues for some of them! - are in the post above the one you just linked to.

Believe it or not - I didn't notice! I was just so happy to have finally found the list I sort of ran out of steam there...

I'll take a look at them...

[lukeottevanger]

BTW, it was my 32nd birthday yesterday. This isn't quite as irrelevant as it seems, if you look back through my clues, specifically no 126.....

[Maciek]

Well then, to heck with clues!

A belated:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LUKE!!!

[lukeottevanger]

Thank you!  Though I didn't get any scores for my birthday, unfortunately.... 


Shall I just post the list here again? I'll take that as a yes....


Set by Sean:
1 - Bach - D minor Cello Suite - (Larry)
2 - Bach - E flat Cello Suite - (Larry)
3 - Bach - C minor Cello Suite - (Larry)
4 - Messiaen - Excerpt from Vingt Regards - (Larry)
5 - Messiaen - Excerpt from Vingt Regards - (Larry)
6 - Messiaen - Excerpt from Vingt Regards - (Larry)
7 - Messiaen - Excerpt from Vingt Regards - (Larry)

Set by Larry:
1 - Bach - B minor Mass 'Quoniam' - (Novitiate)
2 - Nielsen - Sixth Symphony - (Mark)
3 - Beethoven - Quartet op 95 - (CS)
4 - Schumann - Carnaval 'Chopin' - (Mark)
5 - Elgar - Cello Concerto - (Novitiate)
6 - Falla - Harpsichord Concerto - (Mark)
7 - Rzewski - The People United... - (Luke)
8 - Brahms - G major Sextet - (Luke)
9 - Berg - Wozzeck Act II interlude - (Luke)
10 - Mahler - Ninth Symphony - (Maciek)
11 - Boulez - Le Marteau sans Maitre - (Luke)
12 - Petterssen - 7th Symphony - (M Forever)
13 - Carter - SQ 1 - (Luke)
14 - Shostakovich - Symphony 15 - (Luke)
15 - Monteverdi - Orfeo - (Novitiate)
16 - Elgar - String Quartet - (Luke)
17 - Gorecki - Symphony 3 - (Luke)
18 - Bizet - Carmen - (Luke)
19 - Ligeti - Etude 'L'escalier....' - (Luke)
20 - Weber - Sonata 2 - (Luke, but I refused to say because I Googled it; Guido was first to identify it)
21 - Stockhausen - Klavierstucke IX - (Luke)
22 - Handel - Orlando - (Luke)
23 - aka 1a - Verdi - Requiem - (Luke)
24 - aka 2a - Wagner - Götterdämmerung - (Mark)
25 - aka 3a - Holst - Jupiter - (Mark)
26 - aka 4a - Haydn - F minor Variations - (Luke)
27 - aka 5a Liszt - Petrarch Sonnet - (Mark)
28 - aka 6a Schoenberg - Pierrot - (Mark)
29 - aka 6 - six samples plus 'what is the link'
    Bach - Double Violin Concerto (Luke)
    Schumann - Davidsbundlertanze - (Luke)
    Mendelssohn - Scottish Symphony - (Luke)
    Tchakovsky - Serenade for Strings - (Luke)
    Webern - Symphony - (Luke)
    Ravel - Tzigane - (Luke)
    Link = all used by Balanchine - (Luke)
30 aka 21 - Wolf - String Quartet - (Luke)
31 aka 22 - Delius - Irmelin Prelude - (Luke)
32 aka 23 - Wolf - Der Corregidor - (Luke)
33 aka 24  - Crawford Seeger - String Quartet - (Luke)
34 aka 25 - Lutoslawski - Third Symphony - (Luke)
35 aka 26 - Goldmark - Rustic Wedding Symphony - (Luke)
36 aka 27 - Orff - Antigone - (Luke)
37 aka 'Last'! - Bolcom - Songs of Experience - (Luke)
38 aka 41 - Shapero - Symphony for Classical Orchestra - (Guido)
39 aka 42 - Machaut - Mass (Credo) - (Luke)
40 aka 43 - Rouse - Gorgon - (Luke)
41 aka 44 - Beethoven - Merkenstein (duet op 100) - (Luke)
42 aka 45 - Markevitch - L'Envol d'Icare - (Luke)
43 aka 46 - Markevitch - Icare - (Luke)
44 aka 47 - Kupferman - Symphony 3 - (Luke)
45 aka 48 - WF Bach - Polonaise in C minor (Luke)
46 aka 49 - Grofe - Grand Canyon Suite - (Mark)
47 aka 50 - Carter - Concerto for Orchestra - (Luke)
48 aka 51 - Barraque - Sequence - (Luke)
49 aka 52 - Glass - Akhenaten - (Luke)

Set by Luke:
1 - Martinu - Symphony 6 - (Larry)
2 - Tavener - In Alium - (Larry)
3 - Feldman - Why Patterns (Mark)
4 - Khachaturian - Piano Concerto - (Mark)
5 - Ferneyhough - Sieben Sterne - (Larry)
6 - Schoenberg - Jakobsleiter - (Larry)
7 - Part - If Bach had been a beekeeper - (Karl)
8 - Scelsi - Anahit - (Maciek)
9 - Kurtag - Grabstein fur Stephan - (Edward)
10 - Havergal Brian - Gothic Symphony - (Larry 1st by exclamation; Karl 1st by use of English language)
11 - Cage - Concerto for Prepared Piano - (Maciek)
12 - Xenakis - Oresteia - (Greg)
13 - Adams - Harmonielehre - (Maciek)
14 - Ives - The Housatonic at Stockbridge - (Larry)
15 - Nancarrow - Player piano study (37) - (Mark)
16 - Tippett - 3rd Symphony - (Mark)
17 - Villa-Lobos - Bachainas Brasileras 2 (the train one...) - (Larry)
18 - Boulez - Le soleil des eaux (Maciek)
19 - Liszt - Dante Symphony - (Larry)
20 - Ligeti - Violin Concerto (Larry)
21 - Nyman - Drowning by NUmbers - (Maciek)
22 - Vaughan Williams - Symphony 9 - (Larry)
23 - Dvorak - Violin Concerto - (Guido)
24 - Finnissy - Red Earth - (Maciek)
25 - Varese - Nocturnal - (Larry)
26 - Dvorak - String Quartet op 9 - (Larry)
27 - Martin - Mass for double choir - (Maciek)
28 - Respighi - Feste Romane - (Maciek)
29 - Balakirev - 1st Symphony - (Maciek)
30 - Janacek - Suite for Strings - (Edward)
31 - Schnittke - String Trio - (Guido)
32 - Reger - Mozart Variations - (Larry)
33 - Bernstein - Chichester Psalms - (Larry)
34 - Maxwell Davies - Ressurection - (Maciek)
35 - Britten - Nocturnal - (Manuel)
36 - Boulez - Rituel - (Larry)
37 - Stockhausen - Formulas for Licht - (Edward)
38 - Enescu - Cînt T?cut - (Maciek)
39 - Cardew - Treatise - (Maciek)
40 - Kancheli - Symphony 5 - (Edward)
41 - Martinu - Fantasie for Theremin (etc) - (Edward)
42 - Partch - Castor and Pollux - (Maciek)
43 - Kurtag - from Jatekok - (Karl)
44 - Jehan Alain - ? - (Larry)
45 - Rzewski - Coming Together - (Edward)
46 - Schnittke - Violin Sonata 2 - (Edward)
47 - Powell - Serebryaniy vek - (Maciek)
48 - Rihm - Jagden und Formen - (Edward)
49 - Takahashi - Sa - (Maciek)
50 - Komitas [Vardapet] - Dances - (Maciek)
51 - [Pavel] Haas - Suite for Oboe and Piano - (Maciek)
52 - Burgess - Concertino - (Maciek)
53 - Birtwistle - Monody for Corpus Christi - (Symphonien)
54 - Takemitsu - From Me Flows What You Call Time - (Steve)
55 - Suk - A Summer's Tale - (Larry)
56 - Bryars - Cello Concerto - (Guido)
57 - Liadov - 8 Russian Folksongs - (Larry)
58 - Schoenberg - op 35/5 - (Larry)
59 - ?
60 - ?
61 - Respighi - Violin Sonata - (Maciek)
62 - Milhaud - Piano Sonata - (Guido)
63 - Godowsky - Study after Chopin no 45 - (Maciek)
64 - Finnissy - Song 9 - (matticus)
65 - Debussy - Pièce pour le Vêtement du blessé - (Greg)
66 - R Strauss - The Castle by the Sea - (Larry)
67 - Satie - Messe des Pauvres - (Maciek)
68 - Korngold - Piano Trio - (Mark)
69 - Alkan - Concerto for Solo Piano first movement (op 39/8) - (Larry)
70 - Janacek - Mladi - (Mark)
71 - Souster - Sonata - (Guido)
72 - ?
73 - Gann - Petty Larceny - (matticus)
74 - Hauer - Zwolftonspiel - (matticus)
75 - Ornstein - Piano Quintet - (Guido)
76 - Messiaen - Et Expecto Resurrectionem Mortuorum - (Steve)
77 - Casella - A la Maniere de Richard Strauss - (Maciek)
77 - Delius - ? - (Larry) (sorry about this mistake in numbering - two no 77s!  )
78 - Roslavetz - Piano Sonata 1 - (Guido)
79 - Baird - Erotyki - (Maciek)
80 - Barrett - Coigitum - matticus
81 - MacDowell - Sonata Eroica (no 2) - (Steve)
82 - Kapustin - 24 Preludes and Fugues - (Maciek)
83 - Schnittke - Psalms of Repentance - (Greg)
84 - Benjamin - At First LIght - (Greg)
85 - Smetana - Macbeth and the Witches - (Larry)
86 - Paderewski - Chants du voyageur - (Maciek)
87 - ?
88 - Gerhard - ? - (Larry)
89 - Bartok - Bluebeard's Castle - (Mark)
90 - Lutoslawski - Paroles Tissees - (Maciek)
91 - Dillon - East 11th St NY 10003 - (matticus)
92 - Mahler/Cooke - 10th Symphony - (Mark)
93 - Bridge - Piano Sonata - (Guido)
94 - Bolcom - New Etudes - (Mark)
95 - Busoni - Second Sonatina - (Steve)
96 - Xenakis - Herma - (matticus)
97 - Sibelius - Luonnotar - (Mark)
98 - Messaien - Des canyons aux etoiles - (Guido)
99 - Rodney Bennett - Noctuary - (Steve)
100 - Slonimsky - ? - (Larry)
101 - Shostakovich - 4th Symphony - (Karl)
102 - Arnold - ? - (Larry)
103 - Panufnik - Autumn Music - (Maciek)
104 - ?
105 - Bartok - Rhapsody - (Larry)
106 - Ferneyhough - Transit - (matticus)
107 - Crumb - Five Pieces for Piano - (matticus)
108 - Britten - Nocturne - (Larry)
109 - Smetana - From Bohemia's Woods and Fields (Ma Vlast) - (Larry)
110 - Skempton - senza licenza - (Guido)
111 - Havergal Brian - Fantastic Variations on an Old Rhyme - (Mark)
112 - Finnissy - Romeo and Juliet are Drowning - (Larry)
113 - Britten - War Requiem - (Mark)
114 - Holloway - Romanza - (Guido)
115 - Boulez - Improvisation 2 from Pli seon pli - (Larry)
116 - ?
117 - Tavener - The Whale - (Maciek)
119 - Vaughan Williams - Serenade to Music - (Mark)
120 - Schoenberg - Bach arrangement: Komm Gott Schoepfer - (Larry)
121 - Maxwell Davies - The Lighthouse - (Mark)
122 - Vaughan Williams - A Sea Symphony - (Mark)
123 - Hindemith - Ludus Tonalis - (Guido)
124 - ?
125 - Walton - Violin Concerto - (Guido)
126 - Knaifel - Psalm 51 - (Maciek)
127 - ?
128 - ?
129 - Panufnik - Universal Prayer - (Maciek)
130 - ?
131 - Brahms - Nänie - (Mark)
132 - Enescu - Oedipe - (Maciek)
133 - ?
134 - ?
135 - ?
136 - Maxwell Davies - Eight Songs for a Mad King - (Mark)
137 - La Monte Young - various Compositions - (Karl)
138 - Nielsen - Violin Concerto - (Maciek)
139 - ?
140 - ?
141 - ?
142 - Medtner - ? - (Larry)
143 - Glass - Music in Fifths - (Karl)
144 - ?
145 - ?
146 - Ligeti - Concert Românesc - (Symphonien)
147 - ?
148 - ?
149 - Ellington - Heaven (from The Sacred Concerts) - (Symphonien)
150 - ?
151 - Maurice Emmanuel - Sonatina Pastorale - (Larry)
152 - ?
153 - Adams - Harmonium - (Guido)
154 - Dvorak - Symphony no 3 - (Maciek)
155 - Babbitt - Philomel - (Greg)
156 - ?
157 - William Grant Still - Afro-American Symphony - (Guido)
158 - Clara Schumann - op 23/3 - (Larry)
159 - ?
160 - Henze - Royal Winter Music - (Steve)
161 - Webern - Kinderstuck - (Greg arr. Karl)
162 - Harrison - Peace Piece - (Guido)
163 - Ades - Arcadiana - (Guido)
164a and 164b (same piece) - ?

Set by Greg:
1 - Corigliano - Symphony 1 - (revealed by Greg)
2 - Takemitsu - Distance - (Maciek)
3 - Reich - Piano Phase - (Larry)
4 - Ligeti - Viola Sonata - (Edward)
5 - Adams - Phrygian Gates - (Guido)
6 - Kagel - String Sextet - (revealed by Greg)
7 - Prokofiev - PC 1 - (Luke)
8 - Xenakis - Jonchaies - (revealed by Greg)
9 - Debussy - La Mer - (Larry)
10 - Norgard - Symphony 6 -(revealed by Greg)
11 - Takemitsu - Corona - (Luke)
12 - Takemitsu - November Steps - (Luke)
13 - Webern - Canons op 16 - (Karl)
14 - Stravinsky - Soldier's Tale - (Karl)
15 - Lachenmann - Mouvement (- vor der Erstarrung) - (Luke)
16 - Ferneyhough - Lemma-Icon-Epigram - (Larry)
17 - Grisey - Les Espaces Acoustiques (Partiels) - (Luke)
18 - Shostakovich - Violin Concerto 1 - (Luke)
19 - Xenakis - Terretektorh - (Maciek)
20 - Xenakis - ATA - (Maciek)
21 - Reich - Electric Counterpoint - (Luke)
22 - Crumb - Star Child - (Luke)
23 - Faure - Requiem - (Luke)
24 - Shostakovich - Quartet no 13 - (Luke)
25 - Me (Luke) - Paz Songs - (Luke) (don't be daft, Greg!)
26 - Berg - Violin Concerto - (Luke)
27 - Berg - Wozzeck - (Luke)
28 - ?
29 - Delius - Songs of Sunset - (Luke)
30 - ?
Set by Guido:
1 - presumably Sorabji - ? Guido doesn't know which - (Luke)
2 - Schumann - E flat Variations - (Luke)
3 - Ives - first of 114 Songs - (Luke)
4 - Stravinsky - for the five fingers - (Luke)
5 - Barber - Piano Sonata - (Larry)
6 - Previn - Cello Sonata - (Maciek)
7 - Finzi - Cello Concerto - (Luke)
8 - Piazzolla - Libertango - (Maciek)
9 - Bernstein Clarinet Sonata - (Mark)
10 - Poulenc - Cello Sonata - (Larry)
11 - Stravinsky - Requiem Canticles - (Mark)
12 - Kodaly - Solo Cello Sonata- (Larry)
13 'buggered up'
14 - Carter - Cello Concerto - (Luke)
15 - Holst - Invocation - (Luke)
16 - Dietrich - 1st mvt of FAE Sonata - (Luke)
17 - Bloch - Suite for Viola arr. Cello - (Luke)
Couldn't find no. 18...
19 - Ives - Fourth Symphony - (Larry)
20 - really not worth putting up, Guido! This is a little fragment from a larger set by me, this bit in particular called 'A cage went in search of a bird' (from Kafka)

Set by Manuel:
1 - Prokofiev - PC 2 - (Maciek)
2 - Rzewski - Which Side Are You On - (Luke)
3 - de Beriot - Violin Concerto 9 - (Luke)
4 - Wieniawski - Four Etudes (no 2) for Two Violins - (Luke)

Set by Maciek:
1 - Szymanski - Piano Concerto - (Luke)
2- Kilar - Piano Concerto (Luke)
3 - Lutoslawski - Paganini Variations - (Mark)
4 - Szymanowski - 4th Symphony - (Luke)
5 - Serocki - Fort e piano - (Luke)
6 - Meyer - SQ 3 - (Luke)
7 - Zarebski - Piano Quintet - (Luke)
8 - Penderecki - String Quartet 1 - (Greg)
9 - Chopin - Cello Sonata - (Luke)
10 - Gorecki - Genesis I - (Luke)
11 - Vidmantas Bartulis - I Like F.Schubert. Quintetto C Maj op.163 Adagio - (Luke)
12 - Bronius Kutavičius - Last Pagan Rites - (Luke)
13 - Onutė Narbutaitė - Autumn Ritornello. Hommage à Fryderyk - (Luke)
14 - Bacevius - Vision - (Luke)
15 - Loreta Narvilaitė - Butterfly - (Luke)
16 - Moniuszko - Rybka - (Luke)
17 - Kilar - Angelus - (Luke)
18 - Baird - Voices From Afar - (Luke)
19 - Szymanowski - 6 Kurpain Songs - (Luke)
20 - Penderecki - Song of the Cherubim - (Luke)
21 - Cage - Bacchanale - (Luke)
22 - Ives - Song Without (Good) Words - (Luke)
23 - Cowell - Banshee - (Luke)
24 - Crumb - Processional - (Greg)
25 - Bartok - Bagatelle no 3 - (Luke)
26 - Zarebski - Les Roses et Les Epines - (Luke)
27 - Symanowksi - Prelude from op 1 - (Luke)
28 - Messaien - Prelude 'La colombe' - (Luke)
29 - ?
30 - ?
31 - Ravel - Prelude - (Luke)
32 - ?
33 - ?
34 - ?
35 - ?
36 - ?
37 - ?
38 - Shostakovich - F# minor Prelude from Preludes and Fugues - (Luke)
39 - ?
40 - Schubert - Gretchen - (Luke)
41 - Mendelssohnn - 'Spinning' Song Without Words  - (Luke)
42 - Wagner - Spinning chorus (Flying Dutchman) - (Luke)
43 - ?
44 - ?
45 - ?
46 - ?
47 - ?
48 - ?
49 - Chopin - 'Drinking Song' - (from op 74) - (Luke)
50 - ?
51 - ?
52 - Chopin - 'Spring' (from op 74) - (Luke)
53 - Chopin - 'My Darling'  (from op 74) - (Luke)
54 - ?
55 - Liszt - ? - (Luke)
56 - ?
57 - ?
58 - Szymanowski - Demeter - (Luke)
59 - Szymanowski - Four Polish Dnaces (no 2) - (Luke)
60 - Szymanowski - Third Symphony - (Luke)
61 - Szymanowski - Masques - (Luke)
62 - Szymanowski - op 4 Etudes - (Luke)
63 - Szymanowski - Violin Concerto 2 - (Luke)
64 - Szymanowski - Stabat Mater - (Luke)
65 - Szymanowski - Violin Concerto 1 - (Luke)

Set by Steve:
1 - Stamp - String Quartet No. 556(b) for Strings In A Minor (Motoring Accident) - (Maciek)
2 - Bartok - String Quartet 4 - (Larry)
3 - Falla - Homenaje a Debussy - (Luke)
4 - Webern - op 10 Pieces - (Luke)
5 - Stravinsky - Rite of Spring - (Karl)
6 - Coltrane - Giant Steps - (Luke)
7 - Albeniz - Suite Espanola (Sevilla) - (Luke)
8 - ?
9 - Scarlatti - Sonata S3/K513 - (Luke)
10 - Stockhausen - Gesang der Jünglinge - (Luke)
11 - Cordier - Belle, Bonne, Sage - (Luke)
12 - Stravinsky - Octet - (Larry)
13 - Brouwer - La Espiral eterna - (Luke)
14 - Carter - Changes - (Luke)
15 - Smith Brindle - El polifemo de oro - (Guido)
16 - Takemitsu - Folios - (Luke)
17 - Tippett - The Blue Guitar - (Luke)
18 - Ponce - Sonata Meridional - (Luke)
19 - Liszt - Nuages Gris - (Larry)
20 - Bach - Fugue  BWV 997 - (matticus)
21 - Bach - Cantata BWV 21 - (Larry)

[lukeottevanger]

Hmmm, I've just Wiki-ed the date you ought to be looking for, to check that the answer is findable that way, and yes, their page confirms that there was a composer born that day. Unfortunately, not the one I meant!!! - very far from it, in fact. However, their page for the one I did mean confirms that he was born on that day too. So there might still be a way...

[Maciek]

OK, no. 126 is Alexander Knayfel - Psalm 51








......right?

(And I'd like to add that I've had that disc on my wishlist for at least a year now - but that's far from being a record... )

[lukeottevanger]

 
Correct - this is the CD that has the whole score to this piece reproduced in the liner notes. Guido needs to learn it.