Quiz: Mystery scores

lukeottevanger · December 15, 2007, 01:53:04 PM

Cant' resist! - 87 - Gorecki Harpsichord concerto? (second movement?)

lukeottevanger · December 15, 2007, 01:56:33 PM

88 - Penderecki? Could be one of a few pieces, though, will have to think on a bit

greg · December 15, 2007, 02:59:05 PM

gee...... i wonder if there's any Penderecki here?

hm, i have no idea, i give up.

Maciek · December 16, 2007, 04:32:38 AM

I'm slowly adding new clues to numbers from 32 on. The new content is in bold.

Maciek · December 16, 2007, 04:34:18 AM

Quote from: lukeottevanger on December 15, 2007, 01:53:04 PM
Cant' resist! - 87 - Gorecki Harpsichord concerto? (second movement?)

Correct!

Maciek · December 16, 2007, 04:35:30 AM

Quote from: lukeottevanger on December 15, 2007, 01:56:33 PM
88 - Penderecki? Could be one of a few pieces, though, will have to think on a bit

Correct!

Quote from: 我叫格雷格 on December 15, 2007, 02:59:05 PM
gee...... i wonder if there's any Penderecki here?

See answer above.

Maciek · December 16, 2007, 04:58:29 AM

OK, I've added hints up to number 70 but I'm too tired to continue. I guess Sundays are better used sleeping off the extremities of the week...

lukeottevanger · December 16, 2007, 08:20:17 AM

Thanks - those clues look very helpful, and I have a good idea on some of the composers already: one thing that can be said for this thread is that it's greatly increased my knowledge of Polish and Lithuanian composers (or at least their names

).

However, I am so sad to see that you and I are the only ones bothered by this thread. So I'm not going to go haring off to try to identify the pieces now; I'll wait until I have more time later tonight.

Maciek · December 16, 2007, 11:30:35 AM

LO 128 - Brahms Geistliches Lied, Op. 30 (Lass dich nur nichts nicht dauren)

Man, who'd have thought a piece with a title like that would end with the word "Amen"!

Now all I need is some loose change ($123+shipping) and I'll get me that DG "Chorwerke" box...

lukeottevanger · December 16, 2007, 12:39:37 PM

Correct - at last!

Save yourself some bother, here's the last of the three verses and the amen. I'm having a little trouble playing some mp3s through the Windows Media Player at the moment (chipmunks again), and that includes this one, but it works for me through QuickTime etc., so if you have a problem with it, try that first.

lukeottevanger · December 16, 2007, 01:00:55 PM

We need two posts to fit the list on now....

Set by Sean:
1 - Bach - D minor Cello Suite - (Larry)
2 - Bach - E flat Cello Suite - (Larry)
3 - Bach - C minor Cello Suite - (Larry)
4 - Messiaen - Excerpt from Vingt Regards - (Larry)
5 - Messiaen - Excerpt from Vingt Regards - (Larry)
6 - Messiaen - Excerpt from Vingt Regards - (Larry)
7 - Messiaen - Excerpt from Vingt Regards - (Larry)

Set by Larry:
1 - Bach - B minor Mass 'Quoniam' - (Novitiate)
2 - Nielsen - Sixth Symphony - (Mark)
3 - Beethoven - Quartet op 95 - (CS)
4 - Schumann - Carnaval 'Chopin' - (Mark)
5 - Elgar - Cello Concerto - (Novitiate)
6 - Falla - Harpsichord Concerto - (Mark)
7 - Rzewski - The People United... - (Luke)
8 - Brahms - G major Sextet - (Luke)
9 - Berg - Wozzeck Act II interlude - (Luke)
10 - Mahler - Ninth Symphony - (Maciek)
11 - Boulez - Le Marteau sans Maitre - (Luke)
12 - Petterssen - 7th Symphony - (M Forever)
13 - Carter - SQ 1 - (Luke)
14 - Shostakovich - Symphony 15 - (Luke)
15 - Monteverdi - Orfeo - (Novitiate)
16 - Elgar - String Quartet - (Luke)
17 - Gorecki - Symphony 3 - (Luke)
18 - Bizet - Carmen - (Luke)
19 - Ligeti - Etude 'L'escalier....' - (Luke)
20 - Weber - Sonata 2 - (Luke, but I refused to say because I Googled it; Guido was first to identify it)
21 - Stockhausen - Klavierstucke IX - (Luke)
22 - Handel - Orlando - (Luke)
23 - aka 1a - Verdi - Requiem - (Luke)
24 - aka 2a - Wagner - Götterdämmerung - (Mark)
25 - aka 3a - Holst - Jupiter - (Mark)
26 - aka 4a - Haydn - F minor Variations - (Luke)
27 - aka 5a Liszt - Petrarch Sonnet - (Mark)
28 - aka 6a Schoenberg - Pierrot - (Mark)
29 - aka 6 - six samples plus 'what is the link'
Bach - Double Violin Concerto (Luke)
Schumann - Davidsbundlertanze - (Luke)
Mendelssohn - Scottish Symphony - (Luke)
Tchakovsky - Serenade for Strings - (Luke)
Webern - Symphony - (Luke)
Ravel - Tzigane - (Luke)
Link = all used by Balanchine - (Luke)
30 aka 21 - Wolf - String Quartet - (Luke)
31 aka 22 - Delius - Irmelin Prelude - (Luke)
32 aka 23 - Wolf - Der Corregidor - (Luke)
33 aka 24 - Crawford Seeger - String Quartet - (Luke)
34 aka 25 - Lutoslawski - Third Symphony - (Luke)
35 aka 26 - Goldmark - Rustic Wedding Symphony - (Luke)
36 aka 27 - Orff - Antigone - (Luke)
37 aka 'Last'! - Bolcom - Songs of Experience - (Luke)
38 aka 41 - Shapero - Symphony for Classical Orchestra - (Guido)
39 aka 42 - Machaut - Mass (Credo) - (Luke)
40 aka 43 - Rouse - Gorgon - (Luke)
41 aka 44 - Beethoven - Merkenstein (duet op 100) - (Luke)
42 aka 45 - Markevitch - L'Envol d'Icare - (Luke)
43 aka 46 - Markevitch - Icare - (Luke)
44 aka 47 - Kupferman - Symphony 3 - (Luke)
45 aka 48 - WF Bach - Polonaise in C minor (Luke)
46 aka 49 - Grofe - Grand Canyon Suite - (Mark)
47 aka 50 - Carter - Concerto for Orchestra - (Luke)
48 aka 51 - Barraque - Sequence - (Luke)
49 aka 52 - Glass - Akhenaten - (Luke)

lukeottevanger · December 16, 2007, 01:02:21 PM

part 2

Set by Luke:
1 - Martinu - Symphony 6 - (Larry)
2 - Tavener - In Alium - (Larry)
3 - Feldman - Why Patterns (Mark)
4 - Khachaturian - Piano Concerto - (Mark)
5 - Ferneyhough - Sieben Sterne - (Larry)
6 - Schoenberg - Jakobsleiter - (Larry)
7 - Part - If Bach had been a beekeeper - (Karl)
8 - Scelsi - Anahit - (Maciek)
9 - Kurtag - Grabstein fur Stephan - (Edward)
10 - Havergal Brian - Gothic Symphony - (Larry 1st by exclamation; Karl 1st by use of English language)
11 - Cage - Concerto for Prepared Piano - (Maciek)
12 - Xenakis - Oresteia - (Greg)
13 - Adams - Harmonielehre - (Maciek)
14 - Ives - The Housatonic at Stockbridge - (Larry)
15 - Nancarrow - Player piano study (37) - (Mark)
16 - Tippett - 3rd Symphony - (Mark)
17 - Villa-Lobos - Bachainas Brasileras 2 (the train one...) - (Larry)
18 - Boulez - Le soleil des eaux (Maciek)
19 - Liszt - Dante Symphony - (Larry)
20 - Ligeti - Violin Concerto (Larry)
21 - Nyman - Drowning by NUmbers - (Maciek)
22 - Vaughan Williams - Symphony 9 - (Larry)
23 - Dvorak - Violin Concerto - (Guido)
24 - Finnissy - Red Earth - (Maciek)
25 - Varese - Nocturnal - (Larry)
26 - Dvorak - String Quartet op 9 - (Larry)
27 - Martin - Mass for double choir - (Maciek)
28 - Respighi - Feste Romane - (Maciek)
29 - Balakirev - 1st Symphony - (Maciek)
30 - Janacek - Suite for Strings - (Edward)
31 - Schnittke - String Trio - (Guido)
32 - Reger - Mozart Variations - (Larry)
33 - Bernstein - Chichester Psalms - (Larry)
34 - Maxwell Davies - Ressurection - (Maciek)
35 - Britten - Nocturnal - (Manuel)
36 - Boulez - Rituel - (Larry)
37 - Stockhausen - Formulas for Licht - (Edward)
38 - Enescu - Cînt T?cut - (Maciek)
39 - Cardew - Treatise - (Maciek)
40 - Kancheli - Symphony 5 - (Edward)
41 - Martinu - Fantasie for Theremin (etc) - (Edward)
42 - Partch - Castor and Pollux - (Maciek)
43 - Kurtag - from Jatekok - (Karl)
44 - Jehan Alain - Fantasie no 2 - (Larry, piece revealed by Luke)
45 - Rzewski - Coming Together - (Edward)
46 - Schnittke - Violin Sonata 2 - (Edward)
47 - Powell - Serebryaniy vek - (Maciek)
48 - Rihm - Jagden und Formen - (Edward)
49 - Takahashi - Sa - (Maciek)
50 - Komitas [Vardapet] - Dances - (Maciek)
51 - [Pavel] Haas - Suite for Oboe and Piano - (Maciek)
52 - Burgess - Concertino - (Maciek)
53 - Birtwistle - Monody for Corpus Christi - (Symphonien)
54 - Takemitsu - From Me Flows What You Call Time - (Steve)
55 - Suk - A Summer's Tale - (Larry)
56 - Bryars - Cello Concerto - (Guido)
57 - Liadov - 8 Russian Folksongs - (Larry)
58 - Schoenberg - op 35/5 - (Larry)
59 - Pasternak - Prelude - (revealed by Luke)
60 - Julian Srciabin - Prelude - (revealed by Luke)
61 - Respighi - Violin Sonata - (Maciek)
62 - Milhaud - Piano Sonata - (Guido)
63 - Godowsky - Study after Chopin no 45 - (Maciek)
64 - Finnissy - Song 9 - (matticus)
65 - Debussy - Pièce pour le Vêtement du blessé - (Greg)
66 - R Strauss - The Castle by the Sea - (Larry)
67 - Satie - Messe des Pauvres - (Maciek)
68 - Korngold - Piano Trio - (Mark)
69 - Alkan - Concerto for Solo Piano first movement (op 39/8) - (Larry)
70 - Janacek - Mladi - (Mark)
71 - Souster - Sonata - (Guido)
72 - Klein - String Trio - (revealed by Luke)
73 - Gann - Petty Larceny - (matticus)
74 - Hauer - Zwolftonspiel - (matticus)
75 - Ornstein - Piano Quintet - (Guido)
76 - Messiaen - Et Expecto Resurrectionem Mortuorum - (Steve)
77 - Casella - A la Maniere de Richard Strauss - (Maciek)
77 - Delius - Song of the High Hills - (Larry, piece revealed by Luke) (sorry about this mistake in numbering - two no 77s!

lukeottevanger · December 16, 2007, 02:43:21 PM

OK, some initial thoughts:

32 - Kilar? A Prelude, presumably
33 - not sure on this one
34 - your plea to Greg suggests Penderecki, though I didn't know he had piano preludes in his worklist
35 - Ciurlionis? Just a thought. This piece seems quite similar to a few Ciurlionis preludes (specifically, VLs 330 and 335) and though it isn't either of these, that's enough to make it worth a guess. I didn't look into the biographical stuff, though - I may be barking up the wrong tree. Woof.
36 - no idea yet!
37 - Rekasius?
39 - Moniuszko - Spinning Girl
43 - an arrangement of the above, then. I can find one by Melcer, is that it?
44 - no clue
45 - ought to be obvious, I think, but I need to look closely...
46 - ditto
47 - a great Polish composer? Can it be true?
48 - as 45 and 46. Shurely shome Shubert and Schumann here, though..
presumably 50, 51 and 54 are Chopin songs too, haven't got time to check right now. Perhaps they are something else, though, which explains my stalling on these ones!
55 - I'll check out some Liszt later, maybe
56 - Szymanowski - Romantic Waltz?
66 - Baird - Variations with no Theme?
67 - Bacewicz - Pensiere Notturni ?; Contradizione?.... who knows..
68 - ?
69 - ?
70 ah, just

?? from here on!

greg · December 16, 2007, 03:23:28 PM

Quote from: lukeottevanger on December 16, 2007, 02:43:21 PM

34 - your plea to Greg suggests Penderecki, though I didn't know he had piano preludes in his worklist

Gorecki- Four Preludes, Op. 1, (Piano), 1955

never heard it though!
(i totally missed this "plea" at first

)

lukeottevanger · December 17, 2007, 08:09:51 AM

Quote from: lukeottevanger on December 16, 2007, 02:43:21 PM
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35 - Ciurlionis? Just a thought. This piece seems quite similar to a few Ciurlionis preludes (specifically, VLs 330 and 335) and though it isn't either of these, that's enough to make it worth a guess. I didn't look into the biographical stuff, though - I may be barking up the wrong tree. Woof....

Just checked out the biographical side of things, and it seems to tally with your [Maciek's] clues pretty closely, so I am a little more certain with this guess now.

Maciek · December 22, 2007, 02:00:10 AM

Dropped in for a sec before I doze off (nightly colic isn't exactly easy to deal with...

)...

Luke, maybe you shouldn't include everything in your list anymore? Wasn't someone supposed to make a pdf of our quiz at some point? Why don't we all agree not to post any more questions until everything is answered, and then we can all start anew, while someone prepares the hefty "brochure" which will chronicle this thread's first 100 hundred pages (or so)...?

Quote from: lukeottevanger on December 16, 2007, 02:43:21 PM
32 - Kilar? A Prelude, presumably

Yep. From a set of three. Nice, lightweight pieces but nothing special really..

Quote from: lukeottevanger on December 16, 2007, 02:43:21 PM
35 - Ciurlionis?

Correct.

Quote from: lukeottevanger on December 16, 2007, 02:43:21 PM
37 - Rekasius?

That's right.

Quote from: lukeottevanger on December 16, 2007, 02:43:21 PM
39 - Moniuszko - Spinning Girl

A-ha.

Quote from: lukeottevanger on December 16, 2007, 02:43:21 PM
43 - an arrangement of the above, then. I can find one by Melcer, is that it?

Yes, it is. I wish I was a good enough pianist to be able to play it...

Quote from: lukeottevanger on December 16, 2007, 02:43:21 PM
47 - a great Polish composer? Can it be true?

One of the 2-3 greatest Polish composers of the 19th century. Question is, can you even name that many?

But seriously: the name that is usually listed right after Chopin. And this song is considered one of his masterpieces, though to be frank, I don't particularly like (even though I like this composer very much - just not this specific piece).

Quote from: lukeottevanger on December 16, 2007, 02:43:21 PM
45 - ought to be obvious, I think, but I need to look closely...
46 - ditto
48 - as 45 and 46. Shurely shome Shubert and Schumann here, though..

Not sure if there's anything really obvious there but you're certainly on the right track...

Mr. Connery.

Quote from: lukeottevanger on December 16, 2007, 02:43:21 PM
presumably 50, 51 and 54 are Chopin songs too, haven't got time to check right now. Perhaps they are something else, though, which explains my stalling on these ones!

Hm... No.

BUT...

You're thinking in the right direction here. The composer in these songs is not the same. But perhaps someone or something else is...

Quote from: lukeottevanger on December 16, 2007, 02:43:21 PM
56 - Szymanowski - Romantic Waltz?

Ye-es! IMO, this is the piece where Szymanowski sounds most like Debussy - at least to my untrained ear.

Quote from: lukeottevanger on December 16, 2007, 02:43:21 PM
66 - Baird - Variations with no Theme?

Eeee-xactly.

Quote from: lukeottevanger on December 16, 2007, 02:43:21 PM
67 - Bacewicz - Pensiere Notturni ?; Contradizione?.... who knows..

Pensieri notturni - the last few bars.

Quote from: 僕はグレグ (Greg) on December 16, 2007, 03:23:28 PM
Gorecki- Four Preludes, Op. 1, (Piano), 1955

Yes. Not very much like "second" or "third phase" Gorecki but a very decent set of unoriginal pieces...

Maciek · December 22, 2007, 02:14:20 AM

I'm too tired to think up clues for all of them right now but I've added a few here and there. 0:)

Luke, I'll take another look at yours later. Have to leave the computer at the moment, sorry. 0:) 0:)

greg · December 22, 2007, 12:29:22 PM

Quote from: Maciek on December 22, 2007, 02:00:10 AM

Luke, maybe you shouldn't include everything in your list anymore? Wasn't someone supposed to make a pdf of our quiz at some point? Why don't we all agree not to post any more questions until everything is answered, and then we can all start anew, while someone prepares the hefty "brochure" which will chronicle this thread's first 100 hundred pages (or so)...?

hey....... really? Who was supposed to do this? I would if I could, but i don't know how to, sorry....
i'd really like this, and have the list stop RIGHT AFTER EVERYTHING UP TO HERE IS GUESSED AND DONE and be included as the table of contents. Then I honestly think we should lock this thread and start a part II because this thread is just getting way to crowded and it's easy to get lost.
I'd also like to see some more traditional scores that are easier..... Paganini, Schubert, Bruckner, maybe?...... the more obscure modern pieces are hard to guess, and most people have lots of scores from IMSLP which makes it an easier game.

greg · December 22, 2007, 01:04:56 PM

i'll go ahead and reveal my remaining 2....

g28- Gubaidulina Piano Sonata
g30- Ades Chamber Symphony

lukeottevanger · December 22, 2007, 02:20:04 PM

Hey, Greg, there were plenty of very well-known scores (or very well-known composers) in my last batch; what's more, there still are some. Very famous pieces indeed - Bartok's Bluebeard, Smetana's From Bohemia's Woods and Fields, Dvorak's Third Symphony, a piece of Brahms, and others I consider equally major - which is why I'm shocked they either weren't guessed for a long time, or in some cases still haven't been. But my aim in posting score samples pieces here has always been to put up interesting, stimulating, intruiging or just weird pieces, which is also why I've always tried to put up entertaining clues and often typed a little about the piece too, even posted a little sound sample in some cases, after it has been identified. I haven't put up any scores just to be tricky, because that is no fun.

Ah, I see you've just revealed your two remaining ones - hardly Bruckner, Schubert or Paganini!!

Perhaps I will reveal my remaining ones too, in a little while.

BTW, to make the thread into a PDF, just print it off using a PDF maker like Cute PDF. I'll do that, if you want, when the thread is wrapped up.

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