Quiz: Mystery scores

[rappy]

No matter. You probably will some day.

Certainly. But I want to know all the symphonies well enough first until I listen to the songs since I usually prefer symphonies to orchestral songs.

BTW, I've been listening to your #10 more in the past three days than I have for the past 20 years. (But not your #11. I like those particular geographical formations. But not this musical depiction.)

#11 is a wonderful piece, I love it. Do you have the Karajan recording? IMO you mustn't think too much while listening... just turn on your speakers as loud as possible and allow the music to blow you away

[(poco) Sforzando]

#11 is a wonderful piece, I love it. Do you have the Karajan recording? IMO you mustn't think too much while listening... just turn on your speakers as loud as possible and allow the music to blow you away

Sorry, it's just a composer I don't much like. I like some of the shorter earlier works in the same genre as your example, yes, but most of his work I find bloated and overblown.

But now that I think all participants have cast their final guesses, let's reveal the excerpts for those curious:

1 Even though the theme of this exciting finale looks more suitable for a brass instrument, it is really given to the violin.
AUSTRO- GERMAN - ROMANTIC - CHAMBER - Brahms horn trio

2 This composer wrote two sets of 24 preludes and fugues that are among the most influential works in music history. But he also wrote many similar pieces for another keyboard instrument that has two manuals and a set of pedals.
GERMAN - BAROQUE - ORGAN - Bach organ prelude/fugue in D, 532

3 This composer dedicated this 6-movement this suite to his 3-year-old beloved daughter, who died at age 14 only a year after her father.
FRENCH - IMPRESSIONIST - PIANO Debussy Children's Corner Suite, Jimbo's Lullaby

4 A tune from this extremely popular opera was considered by its composer to be such a sure-fire hit that it was rehearsed in the utmost secrecy; our excerpt is from the same act in which said tune is sung.
ITALIAN - ROMANTIC - OPERA - Verdi Rigoletto, from the quartet in Act Three.
This one threw several of you, because I used a piano solo arrangement and didn't snip out all the fingerings. Hee. The tune alluded to above is, of course, LA donna e mobile.

5 This is a grand climax from Act Four of the first of the three ballet scores this popular composer composed.
RUSSIAN - ROMANTIC - BALLET Tchaikovsky Swan Lake

6 In this piece a two-bar bass line for the left hand accompanies a set of constantly changing variations in the right, and would be unlikely to put anyone to sleep.
POLISH - ROMANTIC - PIANO Chopin Berceuse. In the game's most interesting misidentification, one person thought at first this was the Tchaikovsky 1st concerto.

7 The characters in this famous comic opera about aristocrats and their servants are also depicted in a another popular comic opera composed only a few decades after this composer's untimely death.
AUSTRO-GERMAN - CLASSICAL - OPERA from act 3 of Mozart's Marriage of Figaro

8 This is from the first of its composer's seven symphonies, and stylistically is far more conservative than any of the others.
RUSSIAN - MODERN - SYMPHONY Prokofiev Classical Symphony. One person had problems because he gauged the tempo incorrectly. Hee.

9 The composer of this symphony never finished the finale to the work, though posthumous hands have tried.
AUSTRIAN - ROMANTIC - SYMPHONY Bruckner's 9th

10 This symphony was designed with a stringed instrument obliggato in mind, but it was not virtuosic enough for the virtuoso who commissioned it - who nonetheless gave its composer a generous cash award once he finally heard the work.
FRENCH - ROMANTIC - SYMPHONY  Berlioz Harold in Italy

11 A sacred choral work of a type found also in these excerpts, it is a notable for its gentleness as the other is for its theatricality.
FRENCH - ROMANTIC - SACRED Fauré Requiem

12 A striking feature of this fortepiano sonata, one of its composer's best known, is the placement of the second movement in the Neapolitan key (though enharmonically spelled as E major).
AUSTRO-GERMAN - CLASSICAL - FORTEPIANO Haydn Sonata 52, Eb

13 Although this is a sacred choral work, it is sometimes referred to as its composer's greatest opera.
ITALIAN - ROMANTIC - SACRED Verdi Requiem

14 Although called a suite by its composer, there is little to distinguish this work from a symphony, and being balletic in style, it has been choreographed by no less than George Balanchine.
RUSSIAN - ROMANTIC - SUITE Tchaikovsky Suite No. 3

15 Several themes from this song cycle were used in its composer's First Symphony.
AUSTRO-GERMAN - ROMANTIC - LIEDER - Mahler Songs of a Wayfarer

16 This is from one of a set of three works of its type, notable for the inclusion of Russian themes.
AUSTRO-GERMAN - CLASSICAL - CHAMBER Beethoven E minor quartet from op. 59, slow movement

17 Although this composer's most popular work is on a New Testament theme, he also wrote many works of this type based on Greek mythology as well as this largely choral work based on a book of the Old Testament.
GERMAN - BAROQUE - ORATORIO Handel Israel in Egypt

18 This composer wrote 200 works in this genre which have survived, as well as many that haven't because they were left in the care of his most dissolute son. To get the right number for this work, think of the opus number for a certain piano sonata in F# major by another equally important composer.
GERMAN - BAROQUE - SACRED - Bach Cantata 78

19 This is the opening of a set of pieces by its composer that altogether last under five minutes.
AUSTRO-GERMAN - MODERN - KEYBOARD Schoenberg, Six Little Piano Pieces, op. 19/1

20 This composer wrote only two works using this fairly large instrumentation for a chamber group.
AUSTRO-GERMAN - ROMANTIC - CHAMBER - Brahms Sextet no. 2

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So as you can see, all major composers, all well-known pieces in the standard repertoire. And the game revealed some other interesting things about its players:

Luke is very competitive.
So is Jezetha.
Rappy is very honest and won't guess things he hasn't heard.
Mark is very nonchalant.
And I am absolutely insane to have spent some much time and work on this exercise when I could have been doing 1000 things more productive. 

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

So as you can see, all major composers, all well-known pieces in the standard repertoire. And the game revealed some other interesting things about its players:

Luke is very competitive.
So is Jezetha.
Rappy is very honest and won't guess things he hasn't heard.
Mark is very nonchalant.
And I am absolutely insane to have spent some much time and work on this exercise when I could have been doing 1000 things more productive. 

I found it an excellent quiz, Sfz. If that's insanity, there should be more of it around.

Oh, before I forget - could I get a half point extra? Please. I knew #4 was Verdi...

I am rather competitive. 

[rappy]

Thanks, Sforzando, I agree with Jezetha that this was an excellent quiz (although I didn't take use of the last twists).
The only piece I knew well and didn't recognize in the first round was the Prokofiev. The Beethoven quartet didn't pop up immediately but I must admit that I haven't listenened to that one in particular for quite a while. The instrumentation helped then. The others I guessed with the help of the tempo indications 


I request another round!

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

I request another round!

Hasn't the poor man suffered enough?!  0:)

[lukeottevanger]

So as you can see, all major composers, all well-known pieces in the standard repertoire. And the game revealed some other interesting things about its players:

Luke is very competitive.
So is Jezetha.
Rappy is very honest and won't guess things he hasn't heard.
Mark is very nonchalant.
And I am absolutely insane to have spent some much time and work on this exercise when I could have been doing 1000 things more productive. 

Hmm, competitive maybe, but only against myself - in the sense that, I'd got all of Rappy's and have done pretty well on the 'main quiz' here, so I wanted to get all of yours too. But also - and the number of scores I've posted on this thread may be a clue to this - I have a love affair with the written note, and I can't bear not to be able to place a page of score or a fragment of music, especially when, as in the case of your quiz, most of them that I didn't get straightaway nevertheless looked familiar. It's maddening not to know, so I keep on thinking....

[lukeottevanger]

Now, whilst we're waiting for whatever the Dickens young Mr Twist has prepared for us next, there are still some of these to clear up. I might give you some clues in a little while, because we need to get these out of the way...

First list, in two parts:
Part one
and
Part two

Second list (one long part)

New list:

Set by Luke
293 - Tchaikovsky - Festival Overture on the Danish National Anthem - (Sforzando)
294 - Tovey - Piano Concerto - (Johan)
295 - Wagner - Fantasy in F# minor - (Sforzando)
296 - Wagner-Wolf - Paraphrase über "Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg" - (Johan)
297 - Valen - Piano Sonata no 2 - (Johan)
298 - Weissenberg - Sonate en etat de Jazz - (Johan)
299 - Wolf-Ferrari - Violin Sonata in A minor - (Sforzando)
300 - Theo Ysaye - Piano Concerto op 9 - (Johan)
301 - Tchaikovsky - Piano Concerto no 2 - (revealed by Luke)
302 - Tchaikovsky - The Tempest - (Sforzando)
303 - Cage - from Songbooks - (Johan)
304 - Busoni - Concerto for piano and strings op 17 - (Johan)
305 - Berlioz - Rustic Serenade - (revealed by Luke)
306 - Beethoven - Adagio (mandolin/piano) - (Sforzando)
307 - Berg - Four pieces for clarinet and piano - (Sforzando)
308 - Arensky - Piano Trio no 1 - (Sforzando)
309 - Antheil - Sonata no 2 'The Airplane' - (Greg)
310 - Bloch - Concerto Grosso no 1 - (Sforzando)
311 - Berstein - Wonderful Town - (Sforzando)
312 - Barber - Hesitation Tango - (Guido)
313 - Carpenter - Krazy Kat - (Sforzando)
314 - Bax - Harp Quintet - (Guido)
315 - Berg - Abschied - (Johan)
316 - Bernstein - La Bonne Cuisine - (Sforzando)
317 - Bruckner - Christus factus est pro nobis - (Johan)
318 - Chausson - Poeme - (Johan)
319 - Enescu - Piano Quintet - (Johan)
320 - Heinrich - A Chromatic Ramble of the Peregrine Harmonist - (Johan)
321 - Lili Boulanger - Vielle priere bouddhique - (Johan)
322 - Dukas - La plainte, au loin, du faune - (Sforzando)
323 - Maxwell Davies - The Lighthouse - (Johan)
324 - Janacek - Adagio - (Johan)
325 - Barry - Au Milieu - (Johan)
326 - Prokofiev - Classical Symphony - (Sforzando)
327 - Shostakovich - Fugue in D flat major (from the 24) - (Sforzando)
328 - Sibelius - Symphony no 3 - (Mark)
329 - Copland - Piano Fantasy - (Sforzando)
330 - Stevenson - Prelude, Fugue and Fantasy on Busoni's Faust - (Johan)
331 - Musgrave - Narcissus - (Johan)
332 - Bergman - Lament and Incantation - (Johan)
333 - Schubert - G major quartet - (Sforzando)
334 - Nielsen - Flute Concerto - (Johan)
335 - Haydn - Farewell Symphony - (Sforzando)
336 - Elgar - Gerontius - (Johan)
337 - Dukas - L'Aprenti Sorcier - (Sforzando)
338 - Strauss - Die Frau ohne Schatten - (Sforzando)
339 - Berlioz - Harold in Italy - (Sforzando)
340 - Stravinsky - Threni - (Sforzando)
341 - Schoenberg - Gurrelieder - (Johan)
342 - Kodaly - Hungarian Folkmusic - (Johan)
343 - Berlioz - Romeo et Juliette - (Sforzando)
344 - Dillon - Windowas and Canopies - (Sforzando)
345 - Panufnik - Pentasonata - (Maciek)
346 - Bizet - L'Arlesienne (suite 1) - (Sforzando)
347 - Saint-Saens - Organ Symphony - (Sforzando)
348 - ? -
349 - Tavener - The Protecting Veil - (Guido)
350 - Orff - Carmina Burana - (Sforzando)
351 - Holst - The Planets - (Sforzando)
352 - Tchaikovsky - Capriccio Italien - (Mark) -
353 - Bizet - Symphony - (Sforzando)
354 - Janacek - Glagolitic Mass - (Johan)
355 - Haydn - Symhpony no 6 - (Mark)
356 - Rachmaninov - Piano concerto 3 - (Mark)
357 - Lutoslawski - Concerto for orchestra - (Maciek)
358 - Ravel - Daphnis et Chloe - (Mark)
359 - Tavener - Coplas (Ultimos Ritos) - (Chrone)
360 - Verdi - Aida - (Sforzando)
361 - Strauss - Alpensinfonie - (Johan)


Set by Greta
1 - Berio - Sequenza IXb - (Luke)
2 - Dallapiccola - Quaderno musicale di Annalibera - (Luke)
3 - Stravinsky - Petrouchka - (Luke)
4 - Brahms - op 119/3 - (Luke)
5 - Adams - Harmonielehre - (Luke)
6 - Sibelius - Kullervo - (Luke)
7 - Grainger - Lincolnshire Posy - (Chrone)

Set by Chrone:
4 - Rogers - Guadalcanal March - (Mark)
5 - Hermann - Vertigo - (Luke)

Set by Sforzando
49 - Faure - Violin Sonata no 2 - (Luke)
50 - Sullivan - The Mikado - (Mark)
51 - Schutz - Ich ruf zu dir - (Luke)
52 - Puccini - La Rondine - (Luke)
53 - Puccini - Messa di Gloria - (Luke)
54 - Prokofiev - Piano Concerto 4 - (Luke)
55 - Peter Susser - Quatre Bêtises - (revealed by Sforzando)
56 - Copland - 8 Dickinson Songs - (Luke)
57 - Hindemith - The Four Temperaments - (Luke)
58 - Bernstein - Songfest - (Luke)
59 - Bernstein - Songfest - (Luke)
60 - Grieg - Slatter - (Luke)
61 - Beethoven - Kakadu Variations (Luke)
62 - Beethoven - Fugue for string quintet - (Luke)
63 - Prokofiev - Overture on Hebrew Themes - (Mark)
64 - Hindemith - Der Schwanendreher - (Luke)
65 - Verdi - Quartet - (Luke)
66 - Sullivan - Cox and Box - (Luke)
67 - Bernstein - Candide - (Luke)
68 - Sondheim - A Little Night Music - (Luke)
69 - Gershwin - An American in Paris - (Luke)
70 - Egge - Symphony no 3 (Louisville) - (Luke)
71 - Butterworth - A Shropshire Lad (Luke)
72 - Falla - El retabloe de Maese Pedro - (Luke)
73 - Wolf-Ferrari - IL segreto di Susanna - (Luke)
74 - Beethoven - Ah, perfido - (Johan)
75 - Berlioz - La Mort de Cleopatre - (Luke)
76 - Boyce - Symphony no 1 - (Luke)

Set by Guido
42 - Shostakovich - Symphony no 10 - (Johan)
43 - Part - Silouans Song - (Luke)
44 - ? -
45 - W Schuman - Song of Orpheus - (Luke)
46 - Ives - Sunrise - (Luke)
47 - Feldman - Cello and Orchestra - (Luke)
48 - Harrison - Suite for Symphonic Strings - (Luke)
49 - Barber - Cello Concerto - (Luke)
50 - Ruggles - Angels - (Luke)
51 - Prokofiev - Sinfonia Concertante - (Luke)
52 - ? -

Set by Greg
32 - Haydn - Symphony no 99 - (Sforzando)

Clues to Luke's remaining ones

Clues to Guido's remaining ones


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[J.Z. Herrenberg]

Same here, Luke. I was not so much playing against anyone as against the examples, so to speak. I, too, wanted to know first and foremost.

[lukeottevanger]

The remaining ones of mine. Latest clues are in....let's see, what colour shall we have this time......GREEN
322 - Composer of a recently identified score. Might help to look at the piece in a little detail. You did notice the quotation, then? You'd better get this one quickly or I promise you'll be able to hear my complaints even if you're many miles away.This well-known composer didn't have a huge output and is best known for one work, already on this thread. He was the teacher of someone who himself became one of the most famous of musical teachers
332 - Relatively recently deceased composer of 'Requiem for a dead poet' - shares a middle name with the main male protagonist of 341. Very much one of Alban's men... Or Ingmar's, I suppose... Comes from the land of Poju Johan got the composer - Erik Bergman - but maybe it got lost in the melee. I think the piece, for soprano and cello, ought to be findable with this knowledge, so I'll leave it for a while just to see if this prompt helps.
342 - Should be clear who. No, not him, the other one....  Kodaly, Johan has ascertained. I'm on the verge of just giving you this one, as it is only what it seems to be. Have a guess before I reveal it. That isn't a clue, by the way. OK, I'll reveal that one in a minute. Damn, I never did. As I said, it's just what it seems to be - it's from his set of arrangements simply entitled 'Hungairan Folk Music'. So now you don't have to bother with this one.
344 - one of the pieces I loved most as a teenager - extraordinary texturally and timbral invention, and superlative orchestration, so that it sounds as fantastic as it looks, not just the grey sludge it could have become. Deliberately scored for a Haydnesque orchestra. The composer - whose name is also that of an important political figure of the last century from the country of 325 - is self-taught, but when younger played the national instrument of his country and in a rock band (called Influx, apparently). His music is both ultra-complex and instantly accessible. Look at the clue for 325 to help you with the relevant part of this clue. Therefore, given my new update to the clue for 325, it is clear that the famous politician with whom this composer shares his name is Irish. This composer isn't Irish, though - but he does come from another Celtic country, very nearby. The noo. OK, I don't think new clues are required, just a clarification of the previous one. He's Scotish, a contemporary, 'complexity' composer (though he might not like the classification). There's really only one of those. This is probably my favourite piece by him, and I've mentioned it many times in the past, though not so much recently. It has a two-part name which suggests the structure of the piece.
34 - palindromic. Who does that sort of thing....? I has a piece by him a ling time ago, which was also partly palindromic; my sample showed the middle point of the palindrome. That score was guessed by someone from the same country as this composer. And he won't let us forget it.... though he doesn't hang around this thread as much as he should anymore  As I told Greg, when I was a boy, I lived not far from this composer, but he wasn't a native of my country Where is Maciek, anyway? Similarly, clarification rather than much new stuff: a Polish composer who lived in London. A proper, well-known composer too, not one of those unknown bunch of consonants Maciek usually throws at us  OK, a bit of new information: this is a piano work concerned in all manner of ways with the number five
348 - composer appeared in this very same set of pieces. More than once
357 - Only slightly less famous than the original work in this genre, composed by a great Hungarian composer. Another one that The Pole would know inside out, were he to grace us with his presence. So, likewise, a famous Pole - as much as and probably more than the last one. An early pioneer of aleatory techniques, but not in a Cageian way. There, it ought to be easy now.

Can we get these before I go all round the rainbow please?  0:) 0:)

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

A proper, well-known composer too, not one of those unknown bunch of consonants Maciek usually throws at us 

Can we get these before I go all round the rainbow please?  0:) 0:)

Nothing wrong with rainbows. But I'll give them another try later today (am busy writing, though you wouldn't know it).

[Maciek]

I decided to take a peek, since all of the "recent posts" were coming from here...

Last time I visited this thread, you were up to page 164...

345 is Panufnik's Pentasonata

357 is probably Lutoslawski, waiting for it to load...

(Incidentally, my "Magic of the Poles" quiz is much easier, and yet it never got the attention this thread is getting )

[Maciek]

357 is probably Lutoslawski, waiting for it to load...

Concerto for orchestra?

[(poco) Sforzando]

Concerto for orchestra?

I have a score and will check - yes. I'll bet 344 is James Dillon's Windows and Canopies.

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

# 332 Bergman - Lament and Incantation

[lukeottevanger]

All of those are correct. Sforzando obviously has looked into my posting history with that Dillon guess!

[lukeottevanger]

(Incidentally, my "Magic of the Poles" quiz is much easier, and yet it never got the attention this thread is getting )

Yes, but that involves listening to music, doesn't it? And, really, who has got time for that sort of thing....?

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

Is 322 Paul Dukas?

[(poco) Sforzando]

Is 322 Paul Dukas?

La plainte, au loin, du faune... ?

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

La plainte, au loin, du faune... ?

It is, Sfz...

[(poco) Sforzando]

I have a score and will check - yes. I'll bet 344 is James Dillon's Windows and Canopies.

I see my problem with the clue:
"Only slightly less famous than the original work in this genre, composed by a great Hungarian composer."

I read the last phrase as an absolute, rather than a modifier for "original work." And so I thought we were dealing with another Hungarian composer. I think I've heard the Luto CfO just once, and I find that with increasing age and senilitude, it is harder to retain newly heard works, especially non-tonal ones, in my aural memory than it was when I was Luke's age.