Quiz: Mystery scores

[Luke]

last one for now

[EigenUser]

...2 more

Is #30 a booby-trap like the Sciarrino Anamorfosi posted a few years back?

If not, then I guess Mozart's Alla Turka from the 11th piano sonata.

[amw]

It's not, end is slightly different (articulation is also not Mozart's). Yet another manic plagiarist

I'm guessing #27 is Hamelin, and #28 is Maxwell Davies, but no idea what the pieces are as of yet.

[Maciek]

It's a bit of a wild guess, but could 31 be Siegmund von Hausegger?? I have no way of checking.

[Maciek]

29 is definitely the Prelude to Act I of Pfitzner's Palestrina.

[Luke]

It's not, end is slightly different (articulation is also not Mozart's). Yet another manic plagiarist

I'm guessing #27 is Hamelin, and #28 is Maxwell Davies, but no idea what the pieces are as of yet.

30 - Well spotted, that's correct on the 'Mozart' - the clues (the ones I can spot initially anyway) are a) the last few notes, where the ornamentation is not WAM's; b) the lack of repetition of the opening phrase; c) the English tempo indication, 'Fast'

Still needs the composer identified, though. If I'd given some of the next page it would have been a slightly easier hunt, because that is where the real changes begin, and there'd be more to go on - I chose this one to see if anyone spotted the minor alterations that appear at first.

28 is Maxwell Davies, and there is a thematic clue as to the work itself (I looked through the score carefully for it!)

27 - not Hamelin, though I can see why you might say that. Look carefully at the substance of the music and it should be findable.

It's a bit of a wild guess, but could 31 be Siegmund von Hausegger?? I have no way of checking.

Sorry, no. I can see why you would say it though - the brooding opening of some serious-minded late-Romantic Germanic orchestral work which looks obscure, I'd have guessed him too. On the right lines, of course.

29 is definitely the Prelude to Act I of Pfitzner's Palestrina.

Ooooh yeah. Amazing music. Everyone should know it. Such fluidity, such a unique atmosphere. To me its peculiar rhythmic feel, so delicate and throbbing with unpredictable life is like nothing else, except perhaps late Schumann (e.g. the  Nachtlied op 108 - another unmissable piece, but in this case almost unknown)

[EigenUser]

It's not, end is slightly different (articulation is also not Mozart's). Yet another manic plagiarist

30 - Well spotted, that's correct on the 'Mozart' - the clues (the ones I can spot initially anyway) are a) the last few notes, where the ornamentation is not WAM's; b) the lack of repetition of the opening phrase; c) the English tempo indication, 'Fast'

I did notice the English tempo marking, but I figured that it was just a publishing thing or something like that. I almost thought that you were posting one that even I could get!

That Sciarrino piece is hilarious, by the way. I have a friend who is a phenomenal piano player (won a contest with the 10th (Joyous Spirit) of the Messiaen Give My Regards to Baby Jesus). He has a great sense of humor (and loves Ravel, having done the Toccata from TdeC). I should tell him about the Anamorfosi. I could see him learning it.

[amw]

28 is Maxwell Davies, and there is a thematic clue as to the work itself (I looked through the score carefully for it!)

Vesalii icones? I've never heard that piece, but the extract looks like it comes from PMD's "good period" (I hate saying that about a composer :\ ) and that's the first one that came to mind.

27 - not Hamelin, though I can see why you might say that. Look carefully at the substance of the music and it should be findable.

My initial guess would have been one of Godowsky's studies on Chopin's etudes, but as far as I know Godowsky never turned the Butterfly Etude upside down (though he did combine it with the Black Key Etude at one point). I'm not sure which other composers have a similar obsession with making Chopin harder.

Incidentally some hints on the first lot you posted might be nice, I'm still lost on the majority (though #3 is looking vaguely familiar, Froberger perhaps? and I think #13 might be Krenek)

[Luke]

Yes, hints coming, and more scores too, later tonight hopefully. You are right about Froberger btw (I almost wrote frogburger by mistake - coming to McDonald's Paris soon!). There is a clue in the extract I gave as to exactly which Froberger piece it is, too (which is why I gave this particular example, obviously)

Re the whole Hamelin/Godowsky/Chopin thing - yes, every word you say is correct, you have made all the correct observations in order to identify the piece. But I will say, I was surprised that this particular composer would have composed this particular set of pieces

[Luke]

OK, first off, here are a few new ones...then I'll do a FULL list of the whole thread later, if everyone's amenable to me taking that on - I'll just copy the list from the 'old' thread and add a new section. Will take me a bit of trawling around to do it, though, so be patient.

On with the new!

[Luke]

more...

[Luke]

more...

[mc ukrneal]

OK, first off, here are a few new ones...then I'll do a FULL list of the whole thread later, if everyone's amenable to me taking that on - I'll just copy the list from the 'old' thread and add a new section. Will take me a bit of trawling around to do it, though, so be patient.

On with the new!

There was a time I could have played these, but I fear those days are past. Nonetheless, it seems you purposely left a clue with the name Jean Gaspard Debreau. He was a famous mime in the 1800's and was immortalized in the film Children of Paradise. In that film, he is referred to by his stage name Baptiste. There was some fine music in that most famous of French films, composed by Maurice Thiriet. Could this be from that film or have I followed a red herring?

[Luke]

Nice reasoning, but no, it isn't Thiriet. Much, much more famous, and quite surprising, once known.

[amw]

I think 37 is Messagesquisse. Some of the other new ones look familiar too, watch this space.

[amw]

34 should be John's Book of Alleged Dances. You'd think it would be hard to turn in something so insipid with string quartet and prepared piano, but John's got the magic touch.

[kishnevi]

Nice reasoning, but no, it isn't Thiriet. Much, much more famous, and quite surprising, once known.

Devilish of you.  You supply a clue that leads to two composers.  Both Debussy and Poulenc set that poem (google of course)
http://www.recmusic.org/lieder/get_text.html?TextId=2155

[amw]

And 35 looks like the palindromic 2nd movement of Berg's Kammerkonzert in piano reduction, though I'm not sure what the extra instrument is.

[Karl Henning]

And 35 looks like the palindromic 2nd movement of Berg's Kammerkonzert in piano reduction, though I'm not sure what the extra instrument is.

Ah, the arrangement for vn/cl/pf;  I think Luke included that one for me 

[Luke]

The Berg, Adams, Boulez are all correct, and the Debussy or Poulenc one is by either Debussy or Poulenc, correct 

Now, batten down the hatches, here comes trouble........