Five important pre-1980 composers that you easily could live without

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Quote from: MusicTurner on January 12, 2022, 07:09:49 AM
Then most likely Donizetti, Verdi, Bellini, Puccini, and Rossini, or maybe Bizet.

I could live without these, except, of course, Giacomo Puccini. I can't live without his Turandot (Mehta Recording). I remember the first time I heard it. Shockingly glorious to the highest, I must say! And there are more operas and works I like by him, including Le Vili and Edgar, and the compelling Messa di Gloria.
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#141
I should add or modify some five more-serious and important figures:

Chopin
Händel
Vivaldi
Stockhausen
Rossini

Really yes, as long as my beloved composers are not touched, I feel rather comfortable, to say the least.  8) 0:) ;D

I had included Cristóbal Halffter in my initial post, and how wrong I was. That didn't even include Ernesto whom I truly admire and enjoy his works like the Sinfonietta and Rapsodia Portuguesa.

Now the title of the thread is updated: Five important born-pre-1980 composers that you easily could live without
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Madiel

Do I hear the sound of goalposts moving?

Also... living without Chopin is the behaviour of barbarians. Although even barbarians can probably hum the funeral march.
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Quote from: Madiel on January 13, 2022, 02:26:38 PM
Do I hear the sound of goalposts moving?

What do you mean by this?

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Also... living without Chopin is the behaviour of barbarians. Although even barbarians can probably hum the funeral march.

They couldn't hum, and this image works like a proof, I guess:  :P

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Brian

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on January 13, 2022, 01:55:39 PM
Ah, good to hear! So it's not odd to prefer British music like Bax's symphonies to Chopin Waltzes. I'm relieved.  0:)

I'm guilty!  :-X
Odd in the sense of unusual and peculiar, probably yes. Odd in the sense of being worthy of criticism, no.  ;D

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Quote from: Symphonic Addict on January 13, 2022, 01:55:39 PM
Ah, good to hear! So it's not odd to prefer British music like Bax's symphonies to Chopin Waltzes. I'm relieved.  0:)

I'm guilty!  :-X

Odd in only a statistical sense, Cesar! 8)
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Quote from: Symphonic Addict on January 10, 2022, 02:05:59 PM
For real?

Yes, quite real. BTW Mirror Image basically said the same thing as me on the previous page, except he exempted Britten, Elgar, Walton and Arnold ;)

Longer explanation - I like music from all those composers and several others not listed. My main issue is time. I can listen to roughly a CD or two per day on the weekdays, this is listening that is not passive while doing something else, but instead fully immersed, eyes closed in the zone listening which is how I prefer to listen to fully absorb non pop or rock music. Using this an example I adore JS Bach's Sacred Cantatas, by this schedule just to hear the cycle would take me two months! Another example is I saw the Brahms late piano works thread bumped, these are among my favorite works by Brahms. I searched my last.fm CSV file for the last time I listened to them and aside from recently playing them after seeing the thread bumped, it was three years ago.

In reality things aren't quite that dire as there is more time to listen to music on the weekends, but this is just giving a rough idea of how time pressed I imagine most of us are given the vast scope of classical repertoire. Hence why it would be no water off my back if I were to never hear music I'm not completely in love with.

edit - it warmed my heart to see not a single person mentioned Berio  ;D No Feldman either

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Quote from: hvbias on January 13, 2022, 03:29:18 PM
In reality things aren't quite that dire as there is more time to listen to music on the weekends, but this is just giving a rough idea of how time pressed I imagine most of us are given the vast scope of classical repertoire. Hence why it would be no water off my back if I were to never hear music I'm not completely in love with.

Yes, precisely. There is so much music we love and which keeps us occupied, that we don't have the time to care for the music we dont feel attracted to.
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Quote from: hvbias on January 13, 2022, 03:29:18 PM
Using this an example I adore JS Bach's Sacred Cantatas, by this schedule just to hear the cycle would take me two months!

Speedy Gonzalez. I'm approaching the 10-year mark...
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Quote from: Florestan on January 13, 2022, 02:09:02 AM
You should never ever consider visiting Italy, you'd loathe each and every day spent there.  ;D

Disliking a few Italian composers doesn't mean I loathe Italy althogether. Here's some Italian composers I like a lot:

Arcangelo Corelli
Alessandro Scarlatti
Antonio Vivaldi
Giacomo Puccini
Salvador Di Vittorio

I was in Italy some 30 years ago and I don't remember hating one second of it...  0:)
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Quote from: 71 dB on January 14, 2022, 10:31:19 AM
Disliking a few Italian composers doesn't mean I loathe Italy althogether. Here's some Italian composers I like a lot:

Arcangelo Corelli
Alessandro Scarlatti
Antonio Vivaldi
Giacomo Puccini
Salvador Di Vittorio

Thumbs up for Corelli and Puccini!
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San Antone

Beethoven
Mozart
Vivaldi
Mendelssohn
Dvorak

Easy.

There's more ....

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Quote from: San Antone on January 15, 2022, 05:16:06 PM
Beethoven
Mozart
Vivaldi
Mendelssohn
Dvorak

Easy.

There's more ....

Tell us more! Beethoven, Mendelssohn and Dvorák are nasty daring.  ;)
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Quote from: Symphonic Addict on January 15, 2022, 05:36:27 PM
Tell us more! Beethoven, Mendelssohn and Dvorák are nasty daring.  ;)

I could easily live without Tchaikovsky, Borodin, Bruckner, Bedřich Smetana, Richard Strauss, Camille Saint-Saëns, Modest Mussorgsky, Edvard Grieg, Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov, Leoš Janáček, Edward Elgar, Frederick Delius, Alexander Glazunov, Carl Nielsen, Jean Sibelius, Ralph Vaughan Williams, Sergei Rachmaninoff, Max Reger, Gustav Holst, Ottorino Respighi - and more.

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Quote from: San Antone on January 15, 2022, 06:08:03 PM
I could easily live without Tchaikovsky, Borodin, Bruckner, Bedřich Smetana, Richard Strauss, Camille Saint-Saëns, Modest Mussorgsky, Edvard Grieg, Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov, Leoš Janáček, Edward Elgar, Frederick Delius, Alexander Glazunov, Carl Nielsen, Jean Sibelius, Ralph Vaughan Williams, Sergei Rachmaninoff, Max Reger, Gustav Holst, Ottorino Respighi - and more.

I like your sincerity! Thanks for sharing. Hopefully other members don't feel offended or pissed off by these lists of we all. I really find them fun!
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There is so much music I love and so little time. You could probably rip out any 5 composers from my collection and it would take me some months to discover they were missing.