Your favourites from my favourite Orchestral Works from the 20th century onwards

Started by Uhor, January 12, 2022, 07:09:15 AM

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Pick your favourite works, as many as you like

Abrahamsen – Ten Pieces for Orchestra
3 (11.5%)
Ades – Tevot
2 (7.7%)
Ades – Polaris
2 (7.7%)
Bartok – Two Pictures
4 (15.4%)
Bartok – Four Pieces
3 (11.5%)
Bartok – Hungarian Pictures
4 (15.4%)
Bartok – Concerto for Orchestra
13 (50%)
Berg – Three Pieces for Orchestra
9 (34.6%)
Birtwistle – The Triumph of Time
2 (7.7%)
Birtwistle – The Shadow of Night
2 (7.7%)
Boulez - Rituel in memoriam Bruno Maderna
7 (26.9%)
Boulez - Notations for Orchestra
10 (38.5%)
Britten – Sinfonia da Requiem
7 (26.9%)
Britten - Four Sea Interludes from Peter Grimes
10 (38.5%)
Debussy - La Mer
13 (50%)
Debussy – Images pour Orchestre
12 (46.2%)
Debussy – Jeux
9 (34.6%)
Feldman - The Turfan Fragments
2 (7.7%)
Feldman – Coptic light
9 (34.6%)
Hindemith - Symphony: Mathis der Maler
12 (46.2%)
Janacek – Taras Bulba
8 (30.8%)
Janacek – Sinfonietta
21 (80.8%)
Ligeti – Atmospheres
10 (38.5%)
Ligeti – Lontano
7 (26.9%)
Ligeti – Melodien
5 (19.2%)
Lutoslawski – Concerto for Orchestra
8 (30.8%)
Mahler – Symphony No. 6
19 (73.1%)
Mahler – Symphony No. 9
21 (80.8%)
Messiaen - L'Ascension
5 (19.2%)
Messiaen - Et exspecto resurrectionem mortuorum
9 (34.6%)
Nono - Variazioni canoniche sulla serie dell'op. 41 di Arnold Schoenberg
4 (15.4%)
Prokofiev – Symphony No. 1
10 (38.5%)
Prokofiev – Symphony No. 5
11 (42.3%)
Prokofiev – Symphony No. 6
11 (42.3%)
Prokofiev – Symphony No. 7
10 (38.5%)
Ravel – Daphnis et Chloe
15 (57.7%)
Ravel/Kocsis – Le Tombeau de Couperin (complete for orchestra)
4 (15.4%)
Schoenberg - Five pieces for Orchestra
11 (42.3%)
Sibelius – Symphony No. 4
14 (53.8%)
Sibelius – Symphony No. 5
18 (69.2%)
Sibelius – Symphony No. 6
16 (61.5%)
Sibelius – Symphony No. 7
19 (73.1%)
Stockhausen – Tierkreis (for Orchestra)
2 (7.7%)
Stravinsky – Petrushka
13 (50%)
Stravinsky – The Rite of Spring
17 (65.4%)
Stravinsky – Song of the Nightingale
3 (11.5%)
Stravinsky – Agon
13 (50%)
Takemitsu - Twill by Twilight: In Memory of Morton Feldman
4 (15.4%)
Takemitsu – Visions
3 (11.5%)
Vaughan-Williams – Symphony No. 2
12 (46.2%)
Vaughan-Williams – Symphony No. 3
14 (53.8%)
Vaughan-Williams – Symphony No. 5
15 (57.7%)
Vaughan-Williams – Symphony No. 8
11 (42.3%)
Webern - Six pieces for Orchestra
9 (34.6%)
Webern - Five pieces for Orchestra
9 (34.6%)
Xenakis - Eridanos
3 (11.5%)

Total Members Voted: 26

Uhor

Hope you find some works you like and maybe discover some.

This poll comes purely from my taste so be free to recommend me and others the works you think we may like too!

MusicTurner

Note: I overlooked Daphnis & Chloe, but it was then possible to go back to the voting moment and actually insert that extra vote - good!

Voted for 15 of them. It's a fine, varied & generous list. Some works I don't have (Feldman - The Turfan Fragments; the Abrahamsen 10 Pieces in the orchestral version; Ravel/Kocsis; Xenakis - Eridanos; Stockhausen's Tierkreis in the orchestral version), and some of the works I don't know well at all.

Presumably, concertante pieces are excluded.

Your Stravinsky choices would be included in my selection too; I'd include the Symphony in 3 Movements, Orpheus, and the Variations as well.
By Debussy, I'd include Nocturnes, possibly Printemps - until realizing they are from before 1900 and not valid :)

Jo498

Why did you include 3 minor pieces of Bartok? Or the Nightingale in favor of far more significant works of either or another composer?
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

Uhor

Quote from: Jo498 on January 12, 2022, 07:54:35 AM
Why did you include 3 minor pieces of Bartok? Or the Nightingale in favor of far more significant works of either or another composer?

Because I like those pieces and either don't really like, care or know the others.

Brian

I kinda like the meta oddity of being asked to choose my favorite of your favorites.

Uhor

Quote from: Brian on January 12, 2022, 11:35:34 AM
I kinda like the meta oddity of being asked to choose my favorite of your favorites.

It's a way of people getting to know what I like and for me to know what we like in common.

Uhor


bhodges

If you like Abrahamson's Ten Pieces, definitely investigate Schnee (2008). I first heard it by the Talea Ensemble (alas, only excerpts on YouTube), but here's a complete performance by the Mahler Chamber Orchestra, recorded in 2018 at the Ojai Festival. It will do nicely.  0:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT_zY4ofjko

--Bruce

bhodges

My sole suggestion, as an addition to your intriguing list, would be to consider a female composer (or two), e.g.:

Ruth Crawford Seeger: String Quartet (1931) - The Arditti Quartet's version is excellent, and here is another, from the Koan Quartet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feXtcYHqa5o

Kate Soper: "Only the Words Themselves Mean What They Say," part VI from IPSA DIXIT (2010-2016) - Soper is one of the founders of the Wet Ink Ensemble, and has been cited by The New Yorker, among others. Her work deals heavily with texts from many sources. In some cases, she also adds some modest choreographed movement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No0HwUSR8Io

Sofia Gubaidulina - In tempus praesens (2008) - Anne-Sophie Mutter's recording is classic, but here's a new one that is definitely worth hearing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgEaj5_Jy8E

--Bruce

Karl Henning

Quote from: Brewski on January 12, 2022, 01:51:11 PM
If you like Abrahamson's Ten Pieces, definitely investigate Schnee (2008). I first heard it by the Talea Ensemble (alas, only excerpts on YouTube), but here's a complete performance by the Mahler Chamber Orchestra, recorded in 2018 at the Ojai Festival. It will do nicely.  0:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT_zY4ofjko

--Bruce

Quote from: Brewski on January 12, 2022, 02:32:53 PM
My sole suggestion, as an addition to your intriguing list, would be to consider a female composer (or two), e.g.:

Ruth Crawford Seeger: String Quartet (1931) - The Arditti Quartet's version is excellent, and here is another, from the Koan Quartet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feXtcYHqa5o

Kate Soper: "Only the Words Themselves Mean What They Say," part VI from IPSA DIXIT (2010-2016) - Soper is one of the founders of the Wet Ink Ensemble, and has been cited by The New Yorker, among others. Her work deals heavily with texts from many sources. In some cases, she also adds some modest choreographed movement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No0HwUSR8Io

Sofia Gubaidulina - In tempus praesens (2008) - Anne-Sophie Mutter's recording is classic, but here's a new one that is definitely worth hearing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgEaj5_Jy8E

--Bruce

Nice, Bruce! I'm also a big fan of the Ruth Crawford Seeger Quartet.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

bhodges

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 12, 2022, 02:40:22 PM
Nice, Bruce! I'm also a big fan of the Ruth Crawford Seeger Quartet.

Yes. I love that the Arditti Quartet included her on their recording with Nancarrow, Xenakis, Roger Reynolds, and...Beethoven. One of the best string quartet programs ever.

--Bruce

MusicTurner

Have string quartets been upgraded to orchestral works, cf. the poll ? And the Soper work seems to be for 2 musicians ...this leaves much less material for any category of chamber music ... :-\

Plus, the Gubaidulina piece is a concerto ...

Uhor

Women composers I like works from to various degrees, mostly not for orchestra:

Amy Beach - Late chamber works
Lili Boulanger - Les Sirènes, Vieille prière bouddhique and to a lesser extent D'un soir triste and D'un matin de printemps
Germaine Tailleferre - various works more impressionistic than neoclassical, Ballade in particular
Isabel Mundry - chamber works
Unsuk Chin - works up until and including the (first) Violin Concerto
Marti Epstein - ensemble works
Grażyna Bacewicz - various works
Thea Musgrave - (opera) Mary Queen of Scots
Elisabeth Lutyens - chamber music, probably more works if they were modernly recorded

bhodges

Quote from: MusicTurner on January 12, 2022, 08:08:24 PM
Have string quartets been upgraded to orchestral works, cf. the poll ? And the Soper work seems to be for 2 musicians ...this leaves much less material for any category of chamber music ... :-\

Plus, the Gubaidulina piece is a concerto ...

Oops, sorry: Got so wrapped up in thinking of composers, I forgot the "orchestral" part, my bad.  :-[

Quote from: Uhor on January 12, 2022, 09:41:55 PM
Women composers I like works from to various degrees, mostly not for orchestra:

Amy Beach - Late chamber works
Lili Boulanger - Les Sirènes, Vieille prière bouddhique and to a lesser extent D'un soir triste and D'un matin de printemps
Germaine Tailleferre - various works more impressionistic than neoclassical, Ballade in particular
Isabel Mundry - chamber works
Unsuk Chin - works up until and including the (first) Violin Concerto
Marti Epstein - ensemble works
Grażyna Bacewicz - various works
Thea Musgrave - (opera) Mary Queen of Scots
Elisabeth Lutyens - chamber music, probably more works if they were modernly recorded

Ah, a very good list. Can't think of anything to add at the moment, but will do so if name(s) come to mind.

--Bruce

Karl Henning

Quote from: Uhor on January 12, 2022, 09:41:55 PM
Women composers I like works from to various degrees, mostly not for orchestra:

Amy Beach - Late chamber works

Top-notch!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

André

I chose Britten, Hindemith, Janacek, Mahler, Sibelius 4, 5 ,7 and Stravinsky's Rite:)

Uhor

This is not a competition but so far the most liked works are:

15 votes: Mahler's 9th
14 votes: Janacek's Sinfonietta
13 votes: Sibelius' 7th
13 votes: Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring
12 votes: Sibelius' 6th
11 votes: Mahler's 6th
11 votes: Ravel's Daphnis et Chloe
11 votes: Stravinsky's Agon
10 votes: Debussy's La Mer
10 votes: Debussy's Images pour Orchestre
10 votes: Sibelius' 4th
10 votes: Sibelius' 5th
10 votes: Stravinsky's Petrushka

Karl Henning

Quote from: Uhor on January 13, 2022, 07:41:16 AM
This is not a competition but so far the most liked works are:

15 votes: Mahler's 9th
14 votes: Janacek's Sinfonietta
13 votes: Sibelius' 7th
13 votes: Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring
12 votes: Sibelius' 6th
11 votes: Mahler's 6th
11 votes: Ravel's Daphnis et Chloe
11 votes: Stravinsky's Agon
10 votes: Debussy's La Mer
10 votes: Debussy's Images pour Orchestre
10 votes: Sibelius' 4th
10 votes: Sibelius' 5th
10 votes: Stravinsky's Petrushka

Interesting results, to be sure.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Uhor

Quote from: Uhor on January 12, 2022, 09:41:55 PM
Women composers I like works from to various degrees, mostly not for orchestra:

Amy Beach - Late chamber works
Lili Boulanger - Les Sirènes, Vieille prière bouddhique and to a lesser extent D'un soir triste and D'un matin de printemps
Germaine Tailleferre - various works more impressionistic than neoclassical, Ballade in particular
Isabel Mundry - chamber works
Unsuk Chin - works up until and including the (first) Violin Concerto
Marti Epstein - ensemble works
Grażyna Bacewicz - various works
Thea Musgrave - (opera) Mary Queen of Scots
Elisabeth Lutyens - chamber music, probably more works if they were modernly recorded

Adding Elena Firsova