Started by lordlance, January 13, 2022, 03:27:44 PM
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Quote from: VonStupp on January 14, 2022, 01:40:49 PMHave fun! I will try and think more specifically when I get a chance to finally sit down next. VS
Quote from: lordlance on January 14, 2022, 03:13:06 PMBernstein's Mass is such a monumental piece that I have never gotten around to hearing it again. It's on my to-listen list for a few years now. It's an occasion in itself.
Quote from: Holden on January 14, 2022, 03:36:55 PMTo me, solo parts in a choral work help break up the piece and you don't end up with a whole wall of similar sound. It's for this reason that I love the Verdi Requiem so much where you have soloists (Ingemisco), Duets (Recordare) Quartets (Lacrimosa). Much, of course depends on the recording itself. All music can be played in a manner that doesn't grab ones attention but when you hear a recording that does the music justice it's a different story.Pieces that I might recommend in this vein:Orff:Carmina Burana (yes it's cliched but I like it) Previn/LSO/Warner. Immerseel and Anima Eterna for a more modern versionVerdi: Requiem HvK/Price/Cossotto/Pavarotti/Ghiaurov/La Scala Milan - this is a DVD and it is glorious.Handel: MessiahLauridsen: Lux AerternaBritten: Rejoice in the Lamb
Quote from: Jo498 on January 15, 2022, 12:25:57 AMOrff, Verdi, Handel all have considerable amounts of solo singing. Of course one can just skip them. I think the most choral parts in Handel are in Israel in Egypt (nevertheless a rather uneven piece), especially if the funeral ode is used as the first part.I think one better get used to classical solo singing, unless one wants to forego a lot of great classical music. It sounds unfamiliar and artificial to many people today, probably because there are now about three generations who grew up with popular singers crooning into a microphone.
Quote from: lordlance on January 16, 2022, 04:43:11 PMA small update - I tried Schubert's Sixth Mass and I can understand massed vocals getting samey after some time. I am afraid I didn't care for it upon re-listening to it.
Quote from: lordlance on January 14, 2022, 03:55:05 PMI actually attended Messiah in a live concert. It was so bad that I left at the interval. Horribly boring.
Quote from: ritter on January 16, 2022, 11:37:29 PMAlso, anthologies of Wagner opera choruses may do the trick as well.
Quote from: VonStupp on January 14, 2022, 01:40:49 PMWell, if you are looking for bits and bobs from larger works you could really explore any Mass or Requiem setting and dive right into the Gloria's and Dies Irae's of composers you like and see how it takes you. Of course, you may run into soloists too. For me here are some I greatly enjoy for their combustion:Schubert: Mass No. 6 in E-flat Major - The Sanctus!!!Lili Boulanger: Psalm 24 - this is really something elseProkofiev: Alexander Nevsky Cantata - only one solo mvt. to contend withBeethoven: 'Chorus of the Dervishes' from his Ruins of Athens incidental musicHaydn: Te Deum in C (the 2nd one)Zemlinsky: Psalm 13 & Psalm 23Bernstein: Mass - SanctusOrff: Carmina Burana - if you omit the soloists from time to time, there are oodles of bouncy, rough chorusesHandel: Zadok the Priest from his set of Coronation Anthems (can't remember if this has soloists, but oh, the chorus)There are quite a few orchestrated choral ballades, especially from the British. These are all great to me, but I am sure you can find most of these online to explore to see if they gain traction for you:Beethoven: Meeresstille und Glückliche Fahrt - erupts gloriouslyWilliam Walton: In Honour of the City of LondonBrahms: Gesang der Parzen, Begräbnisgesang & TriumphliedGeorge Dyson: In Honour of the City & The BlacksmithsHolst: Dirge for Two Veterans & Hymn of JesusBarber: A Stopwatch and an Ordnance MapElgar: The Black Knight, The Banner of St. George & Scenes from the Bavarian Highlands (orch. Version)There are a couple of multi-movement symphonic choral works that are longer but do not use any soloists. Of course, tempos are not completely upbeat and aggressive throughout:George Lloyd: Symphonic MassPhilip Glass: ItaipuStravinsky: Symphony of PsalmsBruckner: Mass No. 2 in e minorJohn Adams: HarmoniumSchoenberg: Friede auf Erden (sometimes a cappella, sometimes with orchestra)Duruflé: Requiem - Robert Shaw assigned the solo parts to the chorus, I thinkRavel: Daphnis and Chloe (a tiny wordless part for chorus)You would have to sift through the soloist portions, but there is some great, fun choral music here. Poulenc's Gloria is particularly cheeky:Poulenc: Gloria (mvts 1,2, 4 are solo-less) & Stabat Mater (only mvt's 6, 8, and 12 have soloists)Berlioz: Requiem (only the Sanctus has a solo) & Te Deum (only mvt. 5 has a solo)Bernstein: Missa Brevis & Chichester PsalmsJanacek: Glagolitic MassGounod: St. Cecilia MassDvorak: Te Deum & RequiemHave fun! I will try and think more specifically when I get a chance to finally sit down next. VS
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