Do you have criteria for assessing art?

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Dry Brett Kavanaugh

The assessment of art is an enigma to me. Historically, philosophy of art has focused on beauty, emotional impact, social value, and historical significance. However, some of the great art works are not particularly "beautiful", while some beautiful things are not art works. Also, not all of the great art works make us emotional. Some of them don't and they are still great art. Plus, some news articles and sports games make us emotional. The emotional impact on the subject may be scarcely related to the value of object.  Even if we all (subject) die and disappear, great art works remain great. Some of art works convey meaningful social, often humanistic, messages. But non-art does that too and some artworks don't. Some art works may have exerted meaningful impact on society and/or art history. But some great works have not.
I personally belong to a modified school of metaphysics. I tend to think that great art works present super-natural, metaphysical dimension/features which is beyond worldly merit.

Karl Henning

Quote from: VonStupp on February 20, 2022, 06:53:55 AM
If I use the Dr. J. Evans Pritchard scale of Understanding Poetry, I think it could relate to other arts:

I wonder what the graph would look like comparing Beethoven to Chopin. :laugh:
A Happy Sunday to all!  ;D VS





Well played, my Captain!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on February 20, 2022, 07:56:49 AM
The assessment of art is an enigma to me. Historically, philosophy of art has focused on beauty, emotional impact, social value, and historical significance. However, some of the great art works are not particularly "beautiful", while some beautiful things are not art works. Also, not all of the great art works make us emotional. Some of them don't and they are still great art. Plus, some news articles and sports games make us emotional. The emotional impact on the subject may be scarcely related to the value of object.  Even if we all (subject) die and disappear, great art works remain great. Some of art works convey meaningful social, often humanistic, messages. But non-art does that too and some artworks don't. Some art works may have exerted meaningful impact on society and/or art history. But some great works have not.
I personally belong to a modified school of metaphysics. I tend to think that great art works present super-natural, metaphysical dimension/features which is beyond worldly merit.

I dig it. Insofar as I "assess" art, I suppose I'm thinking (or feeling) "what does it mean to my work?
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

VonStupp

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 20, 2022, 10:06:59 AM
Well played, my Captain!

Quote from: vandermolen on February 20, 2022, 12:58:28 PM
+1  ;D

Ha Ha! I am glad someone caught this!

In search for that graphic on how to assess art, I came across an article that defends Dr. J. Evans Pritchard's scale for artistic greatness in relation to writing effective blog posts:

https://integraphy.co/in-defense-of-the-pritchard-scale/
All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff. - Frank Zappa

My Musical Musings

Karl Henning

Quote from: VonStupp on February 20, 2022, 02:58:23 PM
Ha Ha! I am glad someone caught this!

In search for that graphic on how to assess art, I came across an article that defends Dr. J. Evans Pritchard's scale for artistic greatness in relation to writing effective blog posts:

https://integraphy.co/in-defense-of-the-pritchard-scale/

(* chortle *)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

foxandpeng

#26
There is an element of subjectivity and personal taste in art. The eye of the beholder matters. For me, the questions below are relevant. Not all apply to everything but most usually do. I also appreciate the questions of social value and historical significance.

Does it have structure and skill, showing mastery of some sort?

Does it move me?

Is it beautiful?

Is it inspiring?

Is it memorable?

Do I want more of it?

Does it have longevity?
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

ritter

All pertinent questions.

And another one: Is it expensive?  :D

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

foxandpeng

"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

LKB

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