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Re: Sir Arnold Bax
« Reply #1160 on: June 08, 2021, 09:59:44 PM »
No such thing as a perfect performance of anything!  And 'best' is wholly subjective anyway.  For me Fingerhut/Waas are "better" especially when LP vs. CD and general engineering are factored in as well.

You misquoted me, perfect and most perfect are not the same thing. I was alluding to a degree of perfection which I thought you was too.
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Re: Sir Arnold Bax
« Reply #1161 on: June 23, 2021, 09:51:15 AM »
I was just trawling the web looking for an article written in the Picture Post in the early 1940's about Bax becoming Master of the King's Music and moving to the White Horse in Storrington.  I didn't find that article online but I did find a rather interesting series of lectures given by the composer Erik Chisholm when he was based in South Africa.  Under the title "Men and Music" it is basically a series of his own reminiscences of musicians he had close dealings with.  One lecture/essay is on Bax - here's the full list from the pdf you can download;

William Walton ……………………………………….. Page 13
Cyril Scott ………………………………………………... Page 22
Eugene Goosens ……………………………………… Page 28
Bela Bartok ……………………………………………... Page 30
Karol Szymanowski .…………………………………. Page 45
Donald F Tovey ……………………………………….. Page 49
Florent Schmitt ……………………………………….. Page 55
John Ireland …………………………………………….. Page 59
Adolf Busch …………………………………………….. Page 65
Yvonne Arnaud ……………………………………….. Page 68
Tatiana Makushina …………………………………. Page 71
Frederic Lamond ……………………………………... Page 73
Egon Petri ……………………………………………….. Page 74
Alfredo Casella ….…………………………………….. Page 75
Arnold Bax ………………………………………………. Page 82
Paul Hindemith ……………………………………….. Page 92
Kaikhosru Sorabji …………………………………….. Page 103
Bernard van Dieren …………………………………. Page 115
Dmitri Shostakovich ………………………………... Page 119
Nikolai Medtner ………………………………………. Page 123

Here's the link to the pdf

http://www.erikchisholm.com/menandmusic/pdf/menandmusic.pdf

or the website where you can read these online......

http://www.erikchisholm.com/menandmusic/index.php

certainly worth dipping into.......

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Re: Sir Arnold Bax
« Reply #1162 on: June 23, 2021, 10:41:01 AM »
I was just trawling the web looking for an article written in the Picture Post in the early 1940's about Bax becoming Master of the King's Music and moving to the White Horse in Storrington.  I didn't find that article online but I did find a rather interesting series of lectures given by the composer Erik Chisholm when he was based in South Africa.  Under the title "Men and Music" it is basically a series of his own reminiscences of musicians he had close dealings with.  One lecture/essay is on Bax - here's the full list from the pdf you can download;

William Walton ……………………………………….. Page 13
Cyril Scott ………………………………………………... Page 22
Eugene Goosens ……………………………………… Page 28
Bela Bartok ……………………………………………... Page 30
Karol Szymanowski .…………………………………. Page 45
Donald F Tovey ……………………………………….. Page 49
Florent Schmitt ……………………………………….. Page 55
John Ireland …………………………………………….. Page 59
Adolf Busch …………………………………………….. Page 65
Yvonne Arnaud ……………………………………….. Page 68
Tatiana Makushina …………………………………. Page 71
Frederic Lamond ……………………………………... Page 73
Egon Petri ……………………………………………….. Page 74
Alfredo Casella ….…………………………………….. Page 75
Arnold Bax ………………………………………………. Page 82
Paul Hindemith ……………………………………….. Page 92
Kaikhosru Sorabji …………………………………….. Page 103
Bernard van Dieren …………………………………. Page 115
Dmitri Shostakovich ………………………………... Page 119
Nikolai Medtner ………………………………………. Page 123

Here's the link to the pdf

http://www.erikchisholm.com/menandmusic/pdf/menandmusic.pdf

or the website where you can read these online......

http://www.erikchisholm.com/menandmusic/index.php

certainly worth dipping into.......
Most interesting and thanks very much for posting this RS. As soon as I break up (literally and metaphorically!) for the school holiday I'm sure that I will enjoy reading the 'pen portraits'. Chisholm's own music deserves attention, especially the cataclysmic 'Pictures from Dante' and the atmospheric Symphony No.2 'Ossian' both of which have given me great pleasure.
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Re: Sir Arnold Bax
« Reply #1163 on: June 23, 2021, 11:52:35 AM »
I was just trawling the web looking for an article written in the Picture Post in the early 1940's about Bax becoming Master of the King's Music and moving to the White Horse in Storrington.  I didn't find that article online but I did find a rather interesting series of lectures given by the composer Erik Chisholm when he was based in South Africa.  Under the title "Men and Music" it is basically a series of his own reminiscences of musicians he had close dealings with.  One lecture/essay is on Bax - here's the full list from the pdf you can download;

William Walton ……………………………………….. Page 13
Cyril Scott ………………………………………………... Page 22
Eugene Goosens ……………………………………… Page 28
Bela Bartok ……………………………………………... Page 30
Karol Szymanowski .…………………………………. Page 45
Donald F Tovey ……………………………………….. Page 49
Florent Schmitt ……………………………………….. Page 55
John Ireland …………………………………………….. Page 59
Adolf Busch …………………………………………….. Page 65
Yvonne Arnaud ……………………………………….. Page 68
Tatiana Makushina …………………………………. Page 71
Frederic Lamond ……………………………………... Page 73
Egon Petri ……………………………………………….. Page 74
Alfredo Casella ….…………………………………….. Page 75
Arnold Bax ………………………………………………. Page 82
Paul Hindemith ……………………………………….. Page 92
Kaikhosru Sorabji …………………………………….. Page 103
Bernard van Dieren …………………………………. Page 115
Dmitri Shostakovich ………………………………... Page 119
Nikolai Medtner ………………………………………. Page 123

Here's the link to the pdf

http://www.erikchisholm.com/menandmusic/pdf/menandmusic.pdf

or the website where you can read these online......

http://www.erikchisholm.com/menandmusic/index.php

certainly worth dipping into.......

Wow. Thanks so much. As a primary streamer, I often miss liner notes, but love to read to better understand. These look amazingly useful.
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Re: Sir Arnold Bax
« Reply #1164 on: June 24, 2021, 12:59:31 PM »
I didn't find that article online but I did find a rather interesting series of lectures given by the composer Erik Chisholm

certainly worth dipping into.......

Indeed. A marvelous find, and fun. I've read the chapters on Bax, Hindemith and Sorabji so far, and will read the rest.

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Re: Sir Arnold Bax
« Reply #1165 on: October 03, 2021, 01:29:45 AM »
Bax: Tintagel [Barbirolli]





Tintagel is an inherently powerful, atmospheric and beguiling work. This version has quite a presence to it: it is powerful, atmospheric and also has a wonderfully descriptive and lyrical quality about it. It is very engaging. One can really feel the pounding of the mighty waves upon the rugged shore. The quality of the orchestral scoring is well portrayed here and it also has the sense of the enchanted about it. It is a dramatic sound painting that is very well told.
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Re: Sir Arnold Bax
« Reply #1166 on: October 03, 2021, 04:03:05 AM »
... series of lectures given by the composer Erik Chisholm

Thanks awfully, old chap!
You know, I haven't given Chisholm a spin in years ... time to correct that.
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Re: Sir Arnold Bax
« Reply #1167 on: October 06, 2021, 02:37:34 AM »
Reading the interesting discussion of dedications on the Sibelius thread. Bax came to mind with his dedications. With support from Wiki -
Symphony 1 : John Ireland.
Symphony 2 : Serge Koussevitizky.
Symphony 3 : Henry Wood.
Symphony 4 : Paul Corder.
Symphony 5 : Sibelius.
Symphony 6 : Adrian Boult.
Symphony 7 : People of America.
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

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Re: Sir Arnold Bax
« Reply #1168 on: October 06, 2021, 04:13:14 AM »
Reading the interesting discussion of dedications on the Sibelius thread. Bax came to mind with his dedications. With support from Wiki -
Symphony 1 : John Ireland.
Symphony 2 : Serge Koussevitizky.
Symphony 3 : Henry Wood.
Symphony 4 : Paul Corder.
Symphony 5 : Sibelius.
Symphony 6 : Adrian Boult.
Symphony 7 : People of America.
Interesting lol. Thanks for posting it. Interesting that Sibelius's 3rd Symphony was dedicated to Bantock.
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Re: Sir Arnold Bax
« Reply #1169 on: October 06, 2021, 09:53:11 AM »
I was just trawling the web looking for an article written in the Picture Post in the early 1940's about Bax becoming Master of the King's Music and moving to the White Horse in Storrington.  I didn't find that article online but I did find a rather interesting series of lectures given by the composer Erik Chisholm when he was based in South Africa.  Under the title "Men and Music" it is basically a series of his own reminiscences of musicians he had close dealings with.  One lecture/essay is on Bax - here's the full list from the pdf you can download;

William Walton ……………………………………….. Page 13
Cyril Scott ………………………………………………... Page 22
Eugene Goosens ……………………………………… Page 28
Bela Bartok ……………………………………………... Page 30
Karol Szymanowski .…………………………………. Page 45
Donald F Tovey ……………………………………….. Page 49
Florent Schmitt ……………………………………….. Page 55
John Ireland …………………………………………….. Page 59
Adolf Busch …………………………………………….. Page 65
Yvonne Arnaud ……………………………………….. Page 68
Tatiana Makushina …………………………………. Page 71
Frederic Lamond ……………………………………... Page 73
Egon Petri ……………………………………………….. Page 74
Alfredo Casella ….…………………………………….. Page 75
Arnold Bax ………………………………………………. Page 82
Paul Hindemith ……………………………………….. Page 92
Kaikhosru Sorabji …………………………………….. Page 103
Bernard van Dieren …………………………………. Page 115
Dmitri Shostakovich ………………………………... Page 119
Nikolai Medtner ………………………………………. Page 123

Here's the link to the pdf
http://www.erikchisholm.com/menandmusic/pdf/menandmusic.pdf
or the website where you can read these online......
http://www.erikchisholm.com/menandmusic/index.php
certainly worth dipping into.......

Wow, what a fascinating document!  Many thanks for that!   ;D

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Re: Sir Arnold Bax
« Reply #1170 on: October 06, 2021, 10:43:07 AM »
OT
I've just received this book which I ordered ages ago:
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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Re: Sir Arnold Bax
« Reply #1171 on: December 01, 2021, 03:39:13 PM »
I've just come across this performance of the 4th Symphony conducted by Maurice Handford for the BBC in the 1960s on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydtTy_U3A2E

Considering its age and the fact it's an off-air recording the quality is very good, and this interpretation is also very good and may become my favourite Bax 4.