Europe at War

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Florestan

Former Romanian President Traian Băsescu: Well, what did you expect? This is all Putin knows: guns and tanks. Indeed, the man seems stuck in the 1940s.
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: JBS on February 25, 2022, 06:44:17 PM
For Florestan

https://twitter.com/AM_Friedman/status/1497351012234977291

Alexandra Friedman
@AM_Friedman
Apparently, thousands of Romanians have been waiting in their personal vehicles to pick up #refugees at one of the NE borders with #Ukraine.
I'm not often elated at news from back home, but this makes my heart swell. #StandWithUkriane #standwithrefugees
Good to hear that; thank you for sharing that news.

I heard yesterday(?) that there were a number of Polish people who were providing food and water to Ukrainians crossing the border and also opening up their homes to women and children.

PD

Florestan

Breaking News: All commercial and passenger Russian airplanes forbidden to enter the Romanian airspace.
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Florestan

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Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on February 26, 2022, 05:22:24 AM
Good to hear that; thank you for sharing that news.

I heard yesterday(?) that there were a number of Polish people who were providing food and water to Ukrainians crossing the border and also opening up their homes to women and children.

PD

I'm convinced the Polish people and authorities act exactly the same way as the Romanian people and authorites.
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Florestan

According to a Romanian TV channel, Putin is quite furious about Kharkiv not being taken yet, let alone Kyiv. If true, it looks like he grossly underestimated the Ukrainian army's strength and resilience. That's very good news.

Btw, what about sanctions against Belarus? Lukashenko's behaviour is as ignominious as Putin's.
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Que

Putin's last ally in Europe, Hungarian autocrat Viktor Orbán,  falls in line:

Hungary Won't Block Any Sanctions Against Russia, PM Orban Says

LKB

Quote from: Florestan on February 26, 2022, 05:39:58 AM
According to a Romanian TV channel, Putin is quite furious about Kharkiv not being taken yet, let alone Kyiv. If true, it looks like he grossly underestimated the Ukrainian army's strength and resilience. That's very good news.

Btw, what about sanctions against Belarus? Lukashenko's behaviour is as ignominious as Putin's.

President Biden has already announced sanctions against Belarus.
Mit Flügeln, die ich mir errungen...

Florestan

Quote from: Que on February 26, 2022, 05:41:32 AM
Putin's last ally in Europe, Hungarian autocrat Viktor Orbán,  falls in line:

Hungary Won't Block Any Sanctions Against Russia, PM Orban Says

Afaik, Germany is still reluctant to exclude Russia from SWIFT.  :o
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ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Florestan

Quote from: LKB on February 26, 2022, 05:44:42 AM
President Biden has already announced sanctions against Belarus.

Very good.
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Florestan

In order to facilitate communications between refugees and their relatives in Ukraine, Vodafone Romania and Orange Romania announced that calls to Ukraine are now free of charge. Also, they began distributing free of charge pre-paid SIMs to the refugees.
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Karl Henning

Quote from: Florestan on February 26, 2022, 02:33:52 AM
Short of assassination / coup d'etat / heart attack / stroke , zero.

Yes, Putin has engineered that there would be no peaceful transfer of power to anyone not Putin. Mo wonder he's the Model for Mar-A-Lago
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: LKB on February 26, 2022, 02:59:50 AM
Zelensky is showing tremendous leadership. I doubt anyone else could perform better.

God give him strength and wisdom.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Spotted Horses on February 26, 2022, 04:20:46 AM
Best scenario, in attempting to recreate the Soviet Union, Putin accidentally recreates the collapse of the Soviet Union. Putin thinks this action in Ukraine will be a redo of the second war in Chechnya, which cemented his rule in Russia. Maybe it will be his Afghanistan, the failure of which exposed the rot at the center of the Soviet Union. The 'central planning' of the Soviet Union stifled the economy, and the cronyism and corruption of the current Russian economy prevents it from any creative activity other than petroleum, weapons and cyber weapons.

Let's hope Ukraine is as tenacious as Afghanistan.

The quandary for Europe, how to you fight an enemy that you depend on. Can Europe function without Russian petroleum (in the near and medium term)? And can Russia function without customers for its petroleum?

Indeed. And over here, as the pandemic has exposed, Americans are growing incapable of even reasonable sacrifice. Will we have the stomach for what starving Putin out will mean for us?
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Florestan on February 26, 2022, 04:32:58 AM
For the time being they are surprisingly resilient, including at popular level. With adequate military and financial help from the West they really have a chance, if not to repel the Russians, at least to block their advance and come to a protracted standstill.


How do you call Germany's move to give up nuclear power plants and become completely dependent on Russian gas? Stupidity? Treason?

At best, ill advised.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 26, 2022, 06:01:55 AM
God give him strength and wisdom.

Amen!

I confess I didn't expect such a fierce resistance from the Ukrainian forces, I rather thought the Afghan Army scenario will repeat itself. I'm glad I was wrong. May God grant that Ukraine be Putin's Afghanistan and undoing.
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

drogulus

     It's not just the TrumPutinists in the US that spread lies and distortions about Russia and Ukraine.

     Deleted Tweets Reveal a Progressive Group's Ukraine Meltdown



     

     
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Florestan

The Romanian Labour Minister just announced: Ukrainian refugees can work in Romania if they so wish without any special work permit for 9 months, during which they are entitled to social security and healthcare. After the 9-month term they can apply for a prolonged work permit if they so wish.
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

bhodges

Quote from: Florestan on February 26, 2022, 06:23:01 AM
The Romanian Labour Minister just announced: Ukrainian refugees can work in Romania if they so wish without any special work permit for 9 months, during which they are entitled to social security and healthcare. After the 9-month term they can apply for a prolonged work permit if they so wish.

So civilized.

--Bruce

Florestan

Right now, demonstration in Bucharest in front of the Russian Embassy.
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Florestan

Quote from: drogulus on February 26, 2022, 06:17:56 AM
     It's not just the TrumPutinists in the US that spread lies and distortions about Russia and Ukraine.

     Deleted Tweets Reveal a Progressive Group's Ukraine Meltdown

On the flip side, reportedly the Anonymous hacker group extracted some critical information about Russian military and hacked the Kremlin website. Way to go, guys!
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "