Europe at War

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Scion7

Quote from: Todd on November 14, 2022, 06:10:36 AM
The KGB died with the USSR in 1991.
It looks like just a little too much faith is being placed in VPNs.

Secret police, same thing.
And, nope - high level encryption is extremely difficult to hack into.
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Todd

Quote from: Scion7 on November 14, 2022, 04:25:53 PMSecret police, same thing.

Not quite.

Quote from: Scion7 on November 14, 2022, 04:25:53 PMAnd, nope - high level encryption is extremely difficult to hack into.

Well, not really.  For those who are highly mobile, VPNs might suffice, otherwise, not so much.

A non-GMG (and hence more likely to be fact-based and therefore necessarily accurate) outlook:

That VPN may not be as secure as you think
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Scion7

Quote from: Todd on November 14, 2022, 05:16:54 PM
Well, not really.

Yes, really.
Todd, I respect you have your opinions and links, but you are wrong.  I have access to information you don't.
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Todd

Quote from: Scion7 on November 14, 2022, 05:39:02 PM
Yes, really.
Todd, I respect you have your opinions and links, but you are wrong.  I have access to information you don't.

And just what would that information be?  Broad strokes.
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LKB

Quote from: Todd on November 14, 2022, 06:19:54 PM
And just what would that information be?  Broad strokes.

He would be foolish to answer that question here, and has no reason to respond to a Putin apologist in any case.
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Todd

Quote from: LKB on November 14, 2022, 09:20:26 PM
He would be foolish to answer that question here, and has no reason to respond to a Putin apologist in any case.

Ah, yes, the Putin apologist thingy again.  I forgot, is Putin like Hitler?  Hopefully you can clarify.
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Karl Henning

Huggy Bear has posted some damned silly shit, but the announcement of the KGB's death is a "personal best."

Meanwhile: darn them warmongers!

The scenes of residents of Kherson rushing to greet and cheer their liberators will almost certainly be repeated when Melitopol and Mariupol fall. Mariupol was the scene of some of the toughest fighting of the first Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2014. Government forces were forced to evacuate the city in March before reclaiming it in June. Eight years later, when Russia re-invaded Ukraine, Mariupol was the site of the famous siege of the Azovstal Iron and Steel Works, where Ukrainian forces held out against overwhelming Russian bombardment for almost three months before Zelensky ordered them to stop resisting.
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drogulus

     Russia has a new air to air missile it's using over Ukraine and it's a beast. It's hypersonic and effective against Uke MiGs and Flankers. It's fired from the MiG-31, the most beastly interceptor the Russians ever produced. On several occasions in the '80s these planes intercepted SR-71 Blackbirds flying near the Russian border doing spy stuff.

     

     Beast jet

     

     Beast missile

     The Ukes will have to be careful.
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Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

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Pohjolas Daughter


Spotted Horses

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on November 15, 2022, 10:41:16 AM
???  Just turned on CNN and heard that two Polish people are dead.

PD

Doesn't look good for Russia. It's usually a red flag for your "precision" strikes if they land in the wrong country. :(

Pohjolas Daughter

...there's also a related article about Moldova and at least temporary power interruptions.  From that article:

"Moldova's pro-Western president, Maia Sandu, condemned Russia's attacks in Ukraine that ultimately left "dozens of localities" in her country without light.

"They hit the civil and energy infrastructure of the neighboring country, endangering the lives and safety of tens of thousands of people," Sandu wrote on Facebook.

"Russian attacks on Ukraine also caused the automatic disengagement of a line that provides electricity transportation for our country, and dozens of localities were left without light," she said, adding that "specialist services are working to resolve the situation."

Ukrainian Energy Minister Herman Halushchenko said on Facebook that the large-scale attack on Ukraine's energy infrastructure could affect the energy systems of its neighboring countries. He noted that Tuesday's barrage on Ukraine's energy facilities has been "the most massive" since the start of the war.

The outages hit Moldova, a former Soviet republic sandwiched between Romania and Ukraine, as it grapples with a serious winter energy crisis, rapidly rising inflation and a series of anti-government protests. Russia, which it relies on entirely for natural gas, recently halved its supply to Moldova.

Last week, the EU pledged 250 million euros (nearly $260 million) to help Moldova — which was granted EU candidate status in June along with Ukraine — tackle the energy crisis and support its most vulnerable people."

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-moldova-power-outages-edfd0a2990ee1a151e970755657ee73b

PD

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Spotted Horses on November 15, 2022, 10:45:08 AM
Doesn't look good for Russia. It's usually a red flag for your "precision" strikes if they land in the wrong country. :(
Yep.  Apparently it hit an area close to the border where grain was drying.  >:( :(

PD

Madiel

Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

Que

This morning some reports of Ukrainian troops crossing the Dnipro river and of Russian troops pulling back from their defensive positions along the river bank.

Florestan

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-11-15-22/h_1edfd5e923d999f97db39db282a1cc5c

Biden says it's "unlikely" missile that fell in Poland was fired from Russia.

US President Joe Biden said that preliminary information suggests it is unlikely the missile that caused an explosion in Poland on Tuesday and killed two civilians was fired from within Russia.

Speaking to reporters after meeting with other world leaders in Bali, Indonesia, the president was asked if it was too early to say whether the projectile was fired from Russia.

"There is preliminary information that contests that. I don't want to say that until we completely investigate it," Biden responded.

He added that "it's unlikely in the minds of the trajectory that it was fired from Russia. But we'll see."

Earlier, Russia's Defense Ministry said reports of Russian missiles landing in Poland were a "deliberate provocation."

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Madiel

Quote from: Florestan on November 15, 2022, 11:18:37 PM
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-11-15-22/h_1edfd5e923d999f97db39db282a1cc5c

Biden says it's "unlikely" missile that fell in Poland was fired from Russia.

US President Joe Biden said that preliminary information suggests it is unlikely the missile that caused an explosion in Poland on Tuesday and killed two civilians was fired from within Russia.

Speaking to reporters after meeting with other world leaders in Bali, Indonesia, the president was asked if it was too early to say whether the projectile was fired from Russia.

"There is preliminary information that contests that. I don't want to say that until we completely investigate it," Biden responded.

He added that "it's unlikely in the minds of the trajectory that it was fired from Russia. But we'll see."

Earlier, Russia's Defense Ministry said reports of Russian missiles landing in Poland were a "deliberate provocation."

The obvious question is: if it didn't come from Russia, where did it come from?

It's also not clear to me whether there's a possibility of Russians firing a missile from somewhere other than Russia. Either from occupied Ukrainian territory, or from Belarus. All extremely curious indeed.
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Florestan

Quote from: Madiel on November 15, 2022, 11:29:40 PM
The obvious question is: if it didn't come from Russia, where did it come from?

It's also not clear to me whether there's a possibility of Russians firing a missile from somewhere other than Russia. Either from occupied Ukrainian territory, or from Belarus. All extremely curious indeed.

You answered your own question, Belarus is highly unlikely, though. A third possibility is that it came from non-occupied Ukraine and the error is on the Ukrainian side.

As to whodunnit, the answer is obvious: the warmongers at GMG.
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71 dB

Looks like the missile came from Ukraine and was a defence missile (correct English term?) against Russian missiles.
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Florestan

Quote from: 71 dB on November 16, 2022, 01:39:19 AM
Looks like the missile came from Ukraine and was a defence missile (correct English term?) against Russian missiles.

The matter seems settled indeed but even if the missile had been fired by Russians it would still not have been a casus belli unless one could have proven beyond any reasonable doubt that it was intentionally targeted at Polish territory and not an accident --- a rather impossible task. Russia's moral responsibility still remains, though, because without their invasion and war those two unfortunate Polish persons (who were in the wrong place at the wrong time) would not have died.

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy