Most over programmed concert works

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vandermolen

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 01, 2022, 08:47:10 PM
I don't think the Elgar (which I always delight to hear) is at all overdone this side of The Pond.
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Skogwald

I feel like every time I open the page of our local music hall, there's another Mahler symphony being programmed. I just wish I was a bigger Mahler fan..

AnotherSpin

Quote from: Skogwald on June 02, 2024, 01:51:39 AMI feel like every time I open the page of our local music hall, there's another Mahler symphony being programmed. I just wish I was a bigger Mahler fan..

+1. Oh, wait a minute, +100!

San Antone

Beethoven
Mahler (except 9)
Bruckner
Tchaikovsky
Mozart (except the operas)
Haydn
Chopin
Wagner (any opera)
Bel Canto opera

And of course, any John Williams.

pjme

#24
Overprogrammed - on (almost any) radio station / orchestra agenda

Dvorak: cello concerto or symph 9
Sibelius: violin concerto or Karelia suite
Beethoven 6
Chostakonich: walz, symphony 5
Tsjaikovski 5
Harry Potter/Star wars/ Disney/John Williams extravaganza
Berlioz Fantastique
Rachmaninov 2 and  pianoconcerti 2 & 3
and, yes Mahler

and some Pärt, Einaudi, Piazzolla, Arpeggiata, bonbons

ritter

Yep...mankind's appetite for bad music is insatiable... ::)
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(poco) Sforzando

#26
I wonder how much actual research the complainants have done to see what orchestras are actually programming. Sometimes it just feels here like impressions of what is being over-performed, without actual data. To add one impression to the mix, I always hear the Moonlight Sonata referred to as an over-performed work; however, in my experience I have never heard it live other than in a complete Beethoven cycle. The Beethoven piano works most performed these days (and possibly hence "over-performed") in my experience have been the last three late sonatas, opp. 109, 110, and 111.
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DavidW

#27
Quote from: pjme on June 02, 2024, 05:02:24 AMand some Pärt, Einaudi, Piazzolla, Arpeggiata, bonbons

Wait, what orchestra performances do you attend?!  I've never seen those composers performed live!

DavidW

Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on June 02, 2024, 06:48:58 AMI wonder how much actual research the complainants have done to see what orchestras are actually programming.

I think this is the result of being on an international forum.  Different countries, different cities... different things performed.  I once lived in a place I could attend concerts of baroque music on an almost weekly basis.  I now live in a place where I've only heard baroque music performed what three times?  And it was Bach twice and Handel's Messiah.

Brian

Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on June 02, 2024, 06:48:58 AMI wonder how much actual research the complainants have done to see what orchestras are actually programming. Sometimes it just feels hear like impressions of what is being over-performed, without actual data. To add one impression to the mix, I always hear the Moonlight Sonata referred to as an over-performed work; however, in my experience I have never heard it live other than in a complete Beethoven cycle. The Beethoven piano works most performed these days (and possibly hence "over-performed") in my experience have been the last three late sonatas, opp. 109, 110, and 111.

Agreed. I think there is a current live concert vogue for profundity across genres - serious sonatas, serious operas, big Mahlerian symphonies. I've had multiple opportunities in the last 12 months to see the Hammerklavier and Mahler 2 live. Dallas and Fort Worth just had Mahler 5 in back to back months.

But my current answers to the thread prompt would be the Beethoven concertos for all instruments and the Elgar Cello Concerto, which has joined Dvorak - and even elbowed out poor Shostakovich - as one of the only cello showcases we ever get to see in Texas.

DavidW

Quote from: Brian on June 02, 2024, 07:32:07 AMBut my current answers to the thread prompt would be the Beethoven concertos for all instruments and the Elgar Cello Concerto, which has joined Dvorak - and even elbowed out poor Shostakovich - as one of the only cello showcases we ever get to see in Texas.

Oh that is interesting.  Here it is Haydn and Shostakovich that are overly represented in cello concertos (though they don't get as much attention as piano concertos here).

Karl Henning

Quote from: San Antone on June 02, 2024, 03:58:13 AMBeethoven
Mahler (except 9)
Bruckner
Tchaikovsky
Mozart (except the operas)
Haydn
Chopin
Wagner (any opera)
Bel Canto opera

And of course, any John Williams.
Also, anything by Brahms. Mild irony, as the thread was inaugurated by Brahmsian.
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