Recorded Fragments

Started by Bogey, September 09, 2007, 09:51:46 AM

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Bogey

Discussing some Mozart's with Gurn the other day and was wondering if there are any that you have and enjoy either in there true fragmentary form or in a form where others used them and completed the piece.

For example, I truly enjoy LvB's Quintest for Oboe, Three Horns, and a Bassoon in E flat Major, which is based on only fragments.

Off hand, does anyone own a recording of Mozart's Requiem recorded where only the fragments were used?
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Brian

I very much enjoy giving an occasional listen to Grieg's Second Piano Concerto, the sketches of which (about four minutes' worth) were recorded by Einar Steen-Nokleberg for his complete piano music cycle on Naxos. It demonstrated great promise ...

Gurn Blanston

I have found a few little treasures in this disk: Mozart - 28 Unfinished Works - Netherlands Soloists Ensemble - Emergo Classics EC 3992.

Among them are String Quintettsatz in Bb K 514a/Anh. 80, which was most likely a start on what turned out to be K 515, 516 & 516b. Likely he ended up arranging  516b from the c minor wind serenade (384a) when this Bb one didn't work out. But it is over 7 minutes long, enough to let you know that this would have been a very fine work if he had decided to complete it.

Another set I like on this disk is the 3 Piano Trio movements K 442 (each complete, but not going together into a complete work). They would have made a fine addition to the 6 completed ones. And even though "fragmentary" they comprise more than 10 minutes, so they don't come off sounding like the 30 second pieces that some of these others are.

In Beethoven, there are also quite a few big fragments, most of them completed by someone else, for better or for worse. Some that I have recordings of include the Violin Concerto movement in C, WoO 5. This is really nice, I wish he had finished it himself. Another is his first piano concerto, in Eb, which he completed the piano part for, and sketched out the orchestration. WoO 4. There is also a lovely Romance in e for Piano, Flute, Bassoon & Orchestra (Hess 13) which is a lovely piece of music. Anyway, this hardly scratches the surface of Beethoven, because his fragmentary and unfinished works total at least as large a body as his completed ones. One can really not call many of them sketches or unfinished, in many cases they likely were finished, but the manuscripts haven't survived intact and they were never published. :-\

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hautbois

Quote from: Bogey on September 09, 2007, 09:51:46 AM
Discussing some Mozart's with Gurn the other day and was wondering if there are any that you have and enjoy either in there true fragmentary form or in a form where others used them and completed the piece.

For example, I truly enjoy LvB's Quintest for Oboe, Three Horns, and a Bassoon in E flat Major, which is based on only fragments.

Off hand, does anyone own a recording of Mozart's Requiem recorded where only the fragments were used?

Can you show me who recorded this? I am extremely curious!!! (Being the wind music freak that i am)

Howard


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Quote from: hautbois on September 10, 2007, 05:50:08 AM
Can you show me who recorded this? I am extremely curious!!! (Being the wind music freak that i am)

Howard



This is one of several versions that I have. I rec this one because it is as good as or better than most, and the entire disk is filled with very neat little items, like the Adagio for 3 Horns and the 3 Equale for 4 Trombones, also the Wind Band Marches, Polonaise etc. If you are indeed a wind guy, this is a very nice disk to have.  :)

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Music-Winds-Brass-Vol/dp/B00004S7Q4/ref=sr_1_5/002-0327513-6286403?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1189433352&sr=1-5

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