The Beatles albums remixed by Giles Martin

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Dry Brett Kavanaugh

Though the entire sound widened and improved significantly, Paul's bass is ridiculously loud in all the remixed albums, imo.

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Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 10, 2022, 12:29:21 PM
Though the entire sound widened and improved significantly, Paul's bass is ridiculously loud in all the remixed albums, imo.

Hmmm. Wonder why that happened?...
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Because bass guitars are louder in pop music made since the 60s, so, as part of the updating, they made it louder.

The bass on the Beatles' records may even have been quieter than many recordings even in the 60s. Although they mixed with hi-fi in mind, they were aware the music would often be heard on transistor radios and frequently tv.

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

Quote from: KevinP on August 10, 2022, 02:34:34 PM
Because bass guitars are louder in pop music made since the 60s, so, as part of the updating, they made it louder.

The bass on the Beatles' records may even have been quieter than many recordings even in the 60s. Although they mixed with hi-fi in mind, they were aware the music would often be heard on transistor radios and frequently tv.

Even in the original recordings, Paul's bass got louder, if somewhat acceptable, after Sgt. Peppers. I like his bass lines (ex. Something, Oh Darling, With a Little Help), but the bass in remix is too loud and counter-productive.

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A recent interview (3 October 2022) with Giles Martin about remixing Revolver:

https://youtu.be/D0yZO3ElzBQ

Mirror Image

Quote from: milk on October 04, 2022, 09:25:27 PM
I still like the original mono.

I seldom listen to The Beatles, but this mono box set is wonderful:

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Quote from: Mirror Image on October 05, 2022, 03:31:05 PM
I seldom listen to The Beatles, but this mono box set is wonderful:


Gosh, I didn't know that existed. Wonderful! This is how it was meant to be, no?

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Quote from: milk on October 05, 2022, 04:19:22 PM
Gosh, I didn't know that existed. Wonderful! This is how it was meant to be, no?

Yeah, but it's OOP and rather expensive and, yes, it's how The Beatles are meant to be heard or, at least, this seems to be the case.
"Humility is society's greatest misconception."

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milk

Quote from: Mirror Image on October 05, 2022, 04:20:57 PM
Yeah, but it's OOP and rather expensive and, yes, it's how The Beatles are meant to be heard or, at least, this seems to be the case.
I think so. It was all mixed for mono, no? Even until the end? I haven't listened that way in a while but I'm meaning to. At least I remember liking it. I grew up with the extremely weird stereo versions which are kind of fun. I listened to Pepper's super mix and can't say I'm on board. I'm not even sure I like that album. It has Paul's fingerprints all over it. But the mixes Jr did are a bit of an abomination.

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Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 10, 2022, 12:29:21 PM
Though the entire sound widened and improved significantly, Paul's bass is ridiculously loud in all the remixed albums, imo.

I love the tactile bass on Come Together in the remixed Abbey Road, a song that's never been one of my favorites.  I'd love to hear more bass-deficient 60s/70s albums remixed this way.  Looking forward to the Revolver remix.  EDIT: full album not released yet, but there's a sample of Taxman streaming (at least on Qobuz.)

https://open.qobuz.com/track/172443630


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Quote from: Daverz on October 06, 2022, 04:35:07 AM
I love the tactile bass on Come Together in the remixed Abbey Road, a song that's never been one of my favorites.  I'd love to hear more bass-deficient 60s/70s albums remixed this way.  Looking forward to the Revolver remix.  EDIT: full album not released yet, but there's a sample of Taxman streaming (at least on Qobuz.)

https://open.qobuz.com/track/172443630



Alexa played me a "Tomorrow Never Knows" alternate mix at random the other day, so I went ahead and pre-ordered the 2-disc issue.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

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Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

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Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 06, 2022, 06:47:24 AM
Alexa played me a "Tomorrow Never Knows" alternate mix at random the other day, so I went ahead and pre-ordered the 2-disc issue.

I will buy the 2-disc set too since it would include Rain, one of my fav (and Ringo's fav). As for Tomorrow Never Knows, when I was a teenager listening to the song everyday, I had no idea that John was into Hinduism, let alone knowing that I would be interested in Hinduism one day. Still, She Said She Said in the album is my very favorite Beatles song. Imho, the song is the most accomplished and most significant song/composition in the history of western popular music. Dr. Robert is vg as well.







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Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 06, 2022, 07:11:50 AM
I will buy the 2-disc set too since it would include Rain, one of my fav (and Ringo's fav). As for Tomorrow Never Knows, when I was a teenager listening to the song everyday, I had no idea that John was into Hinduism, let alone knowing that I would be interested in Hinduism one day. Still, She Said She Said in the album is my very favorite Beatles song. Imho, the song is the most accomplished and most significant song/composition in the history of western popular music. Dr. Robert is vg as well.








Nice!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

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Quote from: milk on October 05, 2022, 06:25:50 PM
I think so. It was all mixed for mono, no? Even until the end? I haven't listened that way in a while but I'm meaning to. At least I remember liking it. I grew up with the extremely weird stereo versions which are kind of fun. I listened to Pepper's super mix and can't say I'm on board. I'm not even sure I like that album. It has Paul's fingerprints all over it. But the mixes Jr did are a bit of an abomination.

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band is my favorite Beatles album. This isn't to say I don't appreciate some of the others (I love Magical Mystery Tour and Yellow Submarine, too). I even like their 'poppy' earlier work, but, truth be told, I seldom listen to them. My dad is a huge Beatles fan and I certainly understand their importance and impact on music, but if I'm in a rock mood, I'm more inclined to listen to The Police, Pink Floyd or King Crimson than The Beatles.
"Humility is society's greatest misconception."

My "Top 5" Favorite Composers: Debussy, Mahler, Strauss, Sibelius and Bartók