Sviatoslav Richter

[George]

By "others" I meant the Icon set and the Complete Albums Collection; not more of the Authorised.  This was a third party purchase, rather inexpensive.

Did you buy it just to try it out? That entire set you just bought is in the Universal set.

[kishnevi]

One and done.  I ordered it because of the Liszt B Minor (as it turns out it may be redundant if it contains the Carnegie Hall performance) before I decided to get one of the larger sets.

The Universal box contains one performance of the Sonata,  from Livorno 1966.
The Sony box contains a few pieces by Liszt,  but none of them from Carnegie and none of them the Sonata.

[George]

I am hoping that the Authorised set contains the Livorno 1966 perforamance since I already have the Carnegie Hall 1965 date.

You can find out at Trovar.com

[George]

He lists these Philips 438620 (CD) or 446200 (CD) or 454545 (CD).  I don't know how to determine if the Authorized Recordings is one of those.  Also, I don't think the Trovar site is updated since it does not have the Praga 350078 recording among the Carnegie Hall recordings.

There is also a page on that site with artwork. Or, you can simply google each catalog number for artwork.

[kishnevi]

I am hoping that the Authorised set contains the Livorno 1966 perforamance since I already have the Carnegie Hall 1965 date.

The copyright date given in the track listings of the set for the Livorno 1966 is 1994....that is, the year the Authorized  sets were released.

But since the Universal set contains all the recordings issued on Philips,  and contains only one performance of the sonata, then Philips never issued  any other performance of the sonata, so the Authorized performance has to be the Livorno.

[Dancing Divertimentian]

I am hoping that the Authorised set contains the Livorno 1966 perforamance since I already have the Carnegie Hall 1965 date.

Yes, it's the Livorno recording.

The Carnegie is my favorite but the sound is truly awful. The Aldeburgh sonata is great, too.

[George]

Thanks!  I have only heard the Carnegie Hall and the Moscow; I would like to find the Aldeburgh too.  It is a real shame that he never recorded this work in the studio, although I know he did not like that environment.  Also, do you know if the one that is coupled with the two concertos with Kondrashin is the Carnegie Hall or something else.

It's the Livorno, 1966.

[Dancing Divertimentian]

Also, do you know if the one that is coupled with the two concertos with Kondrashin is the Carnegie Hall or something else.

The Philips disc with the concertos actually is the Livorno performance. However, there IS a Philips issue of the Carnegie that's mislabeled "Budapest", although it's long OOP (below). I've never heard that one so I don't know how the transfer compares to the Palexa release I have. According to the reviews on Amazon Palexa is the better of the two.



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[Dancing Divertimentian]

This is confusing.  I had thought that these recordings were the same but just has different cover art, but now I see it's two different orchestras: Moscow and London.

That looks like something new. The recordings could be private tapes (or some such) that've floated around the Richter underground for who knows how long which now somebody has decided to put on disc.

[Dancing Divertimentian]

The ones I need to hear are the Livorno (which is in the mail) and the Aldeburgh - which I need to hunt down.



This has it, and has been given high marks, but the Amazon seller wants $61.50 for his copy. 

There's a later release of the Aldeburgh on BBC Legends (which I haven't heard) and likely is in improved sound over the Music & Arts (which I have):



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[Dancing Divertimentian]

Thanks just put it in my cart.  Do you know which is on this one:

That's Livorno, the same one in the "Authorized Edition". That whole Decca "Master" series is a straight reissue of the "Authorized Edition" although (for some reason) a few of the performances on the "AE" went missing on the Decca. They're no doubt in one of the Universal boxes, though.

Oh, and the Aldeburgh is in quite good sound, fyi.

[George]

Picked this up today for $12. It apparently is selling for $625 on amazon. 

[Dancing Divertimentian]

Picked this up today for $12. It apparently is selling for $625 on amazon. 

You should undercut the seller George and list yours for $624!

[Holden]

Picked this up today for $12. It apparently is selling for $625 on amazon. 

There is a collectible copy there for $74.95 and some used ones between $77 - $110. No new copies available. Maybe someone bought the expensive one as it was new. I'm assuming George you got this at a used CD store or similar. It's amazing the bargains that turn up in those sort of places.

EDIT: If you had played me this CD and asked me to name the pianist Richter would have been one of the last I would have guessed at (if at all) This contemplative, poignant approach is so unlike what I have heard from him apart for some of this late Schubert and Rach Preludes. I sat spellbound listening to this. Move over Emil Gilels, you may just have been replaced by your contemporary in these achingly beautiful pieces.

[king ubu]

If I hate Richter's Händel on EMI (yup, sorry, it's silly and new-agey to my ears, almost like Keith Jarrett in a weaker moment), need I bother with his WTC? And if the answer is yes, which edition is the one to get?

[Mandryka]

If I hate Richter's Händel on EMI (yup, sorry, it's silly and new-agey to my ears, almost like Keith Jarrett in a weaker moment), need I bother with his WTC? And if the answer is yes, which edition is the one to get?

Why don't you just listen for yourself on youtube or something? RCA recently remastered the studio version very well, by the way. I tend to listen most to the lives in Insbruck and Hungary, possibly for no good reason.

[king ubu]

Thanks - might indeed try and sample (but I prefer doing that in a store usually - no idea if the one in town would have any of it there though).

Anyway, could you please post a link to the reissue by RCA? The only one easily to be found on RCA is this 4 disc set from 1992, it seems (rec. in Salzburg):

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[JCBuckley]

Thanks - might indeed try and sample (but I prefer doing that in a store usually - no idea if the one in town would have any of it there though).

Anyway, could you please post a link to the reissue by RCA? The only one easily to be found on RCA is this 4 disc set from 1992, it seems (rec. in Salzburg):

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As far as I'm aware, RCA have only issued a remastered version of Book One of Richter's 1972-73 WTC. Or at least, that's all that's available in the UK. The original RCA complete set is still available - and, for what it's worth, this is still the version I listen to more frequently than any other of the dozen or so WTCs that I've bought over the years. Too emphatic and weighty for many, I know, but I love it.

[Holden]

I've got the RCA, Innsbruck and Moscow WTCs by Richter as well as ones by Feinberg, Schiff, Gould and Jando. The RCA is the one I automatically return to every time. The sets I've listed above are all very different and you may prefer one of them. The Feinberg is particularly good.

[Mandryka]

As far as I'm aware, RCA have only issued a remastered version of Book One of Richter's 1972-73 WTC. Or at least, that all that's available in the UK. The original RCA complete set is still available - and, for what it's worth, this is still the version I listen to more frequently than any other of the dozen or so WTCs that I've bought over the years. Too emphatic and weighty for many, I know, but I love it.

Yes I was confused, but I have an amateur transfer of Book 2 taken from LPs which is better than what's in the old sony transfer. I'll share the FLAC files with anyone who wants it, just send me a message.

The remastered Bk 1 is here