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Concertos for orchestra
« on: September 14, 2022, 01:31:35 AM »
Bela Bartok (in 1943) and Witold Lutoslawski (1950-1954) wrote quite possibly the most famous "Concertos for orchestra".
Many composers were inspired by these works and wrote compositions that exploit the orchestra's virtuoso potential.

Desider Kardos : https://youtu.be/G5_hGzGzO5Q
Arthur Meulemans (two concertos for orchestra): https://youtu.be/Envita7Kl-4
Roberto Gerhard: https://youtu.be/d0ndg4EZenI
Elliot Carter: https://youtu.be/n9z39sJgL5c
Anatol Vieru: https://youtu.be/uwHQsOoS4UE
Goffredo Petrassi: 8 concerti for orchestra : https://youtu.be/uwHQsOoS4UE
Sophie Eckhardt-Gramaté:https://youtu.be/v-rh3daGRxo
Michael Tippett: https://youtu.be/AbUK7gCTvas
Shulamit Ran: https://youtu.be/LxcfEhY3LRU
Stephen Paulus: https://youtu.be/wgEl70lRRkQ
Zoltan Kodaly: https://youtu.be/t5AlHun940s
Christopher Rouse: https://youtu.be/7UvaIi7QNVE
George Benjamin: https://youtu.be/IeC0_nC58tw
Ennio Morricone: https://youtu.be/A1Ue9YE9vnQ
Akira Miyoshi: https://youtu.be/CUucxvYfXd0
Jennifer Higdon: https://youtu.be/SLGp0ig1nKw
Krasimir Kyurkchiyski: https://youtu.be/L3VC8AaWaSs
Norbert Rosseau: (two concerti for orchestra): https://youtu.be/Uzz2L0kldNs
Paul Hindemith: https://youtu.be/cgLkNM1NUkY
Robin Holloway: at least 5 concerti for orchestra: https://youtu.be/cgLkNM1NUkY
Emil Hlobil: https://youtu.be/JZq3QL8cK-g

...and many more, of course. Any "favorites" I forgot or have to discover?

I couldn't find a "Concerto pour orchestre"....

Havergal Brian, of course: https://youtu.be/RWelWOjxIPg
 




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Re: Concertos for orchestra
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2022, 04:50:30 AM »
Rodion Shchedrin wrote several like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey2wUi5Jf4Q

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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2022, 07:20:56 AM »
The compact and energetic one by Vagn Holmboe.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2022, 07:56:12 AM »
Alfredo Casella, it is thoughtful and intriguing: https://youtu.be/u7SfPGWeNFY
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Re: Concertos for orchestra
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2022, 01:57:29 PM »
Checking my own collection, not mentioned so far are concertos for orchestra by:

Hermann Koppel
Michael Torke
Walter Piston
Stan Skrowaczewski
Tan Dun
Steven Stucky
Roger Sessions
Joan Tower
Richard Danielpour
Morton Gould
Robert Groslot

More thorough list here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerto_for_Orchestra
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Re: Concertos for orchestra
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2022, 05:41:57 PM »
Peter Maxwell Davies Strathclyde Concerto 10
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Re: Concertos for orchestra
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2022, 12:23:30 AM »
Checking my own collection, not mentioned so far are concertos for orchestra by:

Hermann Koppel
Michael Torke
Walter Piston
Stan Skrowaczewski
Tan Dun
Steven Stucky
Roger Sessions
Joan Tower
Richard Danielpour
Morton Gould
Robert Groslot

More thorough list here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerto_for_Orchestra

Thanks, and glad to see compatriot Robert Groslot on that list.

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Re: Concertos for orchestra
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2022, 12:28:27 AM »
Peter Maxwell Davies Strathclyde Concerto 10

Good - time to tackle works by PMD again....

The Wiki list is interesting. Hindemith's neo-baroque Concerto from 1925 seems to be the oldest exemple from the 20th century, and I wasn't aware that Kodaly's work predates Bartok's.
Bartok's concerto is performed often and some works (Carter, Higdon ) are briefly "popular". But the rest.... ?
Harald Genzmer wrote two Konzerte für Orchester...

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/sYuGnVwj1mE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/sYuGnVwj1mE</a>

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/QHT2d9-Qd88" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/QHT2d9-Qd88</a>

Ferenc Szabo: Homecoming (1948) -concerto for orchestra

An early "homage" to Bartok's (quasi) symphony. Simpler in style it does have - in my opinion - its own bright, optimistic " communist" message. A lovely work in a great performance by Ferencsik.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/arts/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/szabo-ferenc-0



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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2022, 04:10:12 AM »
Ah, there is a French work:

Thierry Escaich: Concerto pour orchestre. Written in 2014 for the opening of the Philharmonie and the Orchestre de Paris / Paavo Järvi.
No recording yet.
http://www.escaich.org/en/pages/works/orchestra/concerto-pour-orchestre.html

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/hJAJwS_umTs" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/hJAJwS_umTs</a>

"Psalmos" is a "symphonie concertante", but described by Escaich also a concerto for orchestra, "in the logic of a concerto grosso".
https://www.billaudot.com/en/catalog.php?cs=1&dox=Thierry%20Escaich

https://www.amazon.nl/Concertos-Orchestra-Louis-Cincinnati-Langree/dp/B01M232PQH

And a Belgian one, by August Verbesselt:

https://archive.org/details/lp_concerto-voor-orkest-drie-symfonische-ove_august-verbesselt-louis-marischal/disc1/01.01.+Concerto+Voor+Orkest%3A+Andante.mp3





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Re: Concertos for orchestra
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Re: Concertos for orchestra
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2022, 05:05:29 AM »
Yes, i discovered that. But the work on that cd is "Psalmos"( composed propably in 2015), not the Concerto for orchestra (composed in 2014)

The whole concert - including Escaich - is on spotify:

https://open.spotify.com/album/03DBV9yv7uHVqxesujNrz0

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Re: Concertos for orchestra
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2022, 08:42:46 PM »
Lutoslawski's is my favourite, of those I know. Great as it is, the Bartok has lost some of its appeal to me through over-exposure.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

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Re: Concertos for orchestra
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2022, 03:37:35 AM »
Agreed. Bartok's Concerto is very "well represented."  ::)
I think that you may like Szabo's "Hazateres".

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Re: Concertos for orchestra
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2022, 03:52:14 AM »
Thanks for these great lists! I've not heard most of these, and am putting the concerto by George Benjamin at the top of the list, since I'm most familiar with his operatic output.

PS, may have mentioned elsewhere, but the Frankfurt Radio Symphony has two recordings of the Lutoslawski, six years apart, for anyone who loves the piece and wants to do an A/B comparison.

Edward Gardner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXQ1fgmUIPY

Krzysztof Urbański
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lwCIK7uENM&t=5s

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Re: Concertos for orchestra
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2022, 10:01:27 PM »
Agreed. Bartok's Concerto is very "well represented."  ::)
I think that you may like Szabo's "Hazateres".
Never heard of it - thanks. I will look out for it.

PS I just found 'Hazateres' on You Tube - it is excellent, and I really enjoyed it. It starts off rather like the Bartok but soon goes off in a different direction - a very nice discover. Is there a CD version?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHT2d9-Qd88

PPS His biography doesn't make for very cheery reading:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferenc_Szab%C3%B3_(composer)
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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2022, 05:07:42 AM »
Shout out for Søren Nils Eichberg's Concerto for Orchestra, Morpheus. Dark and suffused with driving energy. Cool beans.
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Re: Concertos for orchestra
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2022, 09:20:43 AM »
Never heard of it - thanks. I will look out for it.

PS I just found 'Hazateres' on You Tube - it is excellent, and I really enjoyed it. It starts off rather like the Bartok but soon goes off in a different direction - a very nice discover. Is there a CD version?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHT2d9-Qd88

PPS His biography doesn't make for very cheery reading:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferenc_Szab%C3%B3_(composer)

No CD, I'm afraid, Jeffrey. I had the Hungaroton LP for years and -after giving away all my Lps - I thought I would never hear "Hazateres" again.
But, as i mentioned earlier in this thread, YT came to the rescue.

Søren Nils Eichberg is a name completely new to me. So, thanks Fox. I'll check Morpheus out.

Peter
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Re: Concertos for orchestra
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2022, 12:01:18 PM »
No CD, I'm afraid, Jeffrey. I had the Hungaroton LP for years and -after giving away all my Lps - I thought I would never hear "Hazateres" again.
But, as i mentioned earlier in this thread, YT came to the rescue.

Søren Nils Eichberg is a name completely new to me. So, thanks Fox. I'll check Morpheus out.

Peter
Thanks Peter.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2022, 03:09:48 PM »
Thanks, and glad to see compatriot Robert Groslot on that list.

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I thought this was excellent!