String Quartet, Op. 1

[krummholz]

Understood. Love the piece! Congrats!

Thanks much, Karl!

[lunar22]

Thanks for your comments, @relm1! There are a bunch of redundant and otherwise unnecessary details in the score that I just haven't cleaned up yet - someone else mentioned the extraneous treble clef and I just haven't gotten to it.

have you upgraded to Dorico 6 yet? You know there's a proofing tool which will sort out all the stuff like duplicate clefs for you. I've already found it quite useful (and probably the only major new feature I'll use as there's virtually nothing playback related). I'll have another listen to your new version at some point soon, once I've got all this NotePerfomer stuff out of my system.

[krummholz]

have you upgraded to Dorico 6 yet? You know there's a proofing tool which will sort out all the stuff like duplicate clefs for you. I've already found it quite useful (and probably the only major new feature I'll use as there's virtually nothing playback related). I'll have another listen to your new version at some point soon, once I've got all this NotePerfomer stuff out of my system.

I haven't, because of discussion on the Steinberg forum saying that there was no urgency to it as there were few new features. A proofing tool sounds nice though, so I will probably do so in the near future - before they release a newer version with a steeper upgrade price. Thanks for the tip.

[Karl Henning]

I haven't, because of discussion on the Steinberg forum saying that there was no urgency to it as there were few new features. A proofing tool sounds nice though, so I will probably do so in the near future - before they release a newer version with a steeper upgrade price. Thanks for the tip.

If I migrate, I may reach out to you with the odd q.

[lunar22]

there are a few of us Doricians here, I think, who would be glad to help. The forum is pretty good at responding to queries as well and developers usually sort out issues pretty quickly.

[Karl Henning]

there are a few of us Doricians here, I think, who would be glad to help. The forum is pretty good at responding to queries as well and developers usually sort out issues pretty quickly.

Appreciate it, thanks. On one hand, I don't foresee migrating. On t'other, one never knows, do one?

[lunar22]

from my memory, the dynamism and passion in this music has improved with the Dorico version though. as you know, for me the tonal qualities of the NotePerformer strings continue to grate. Perhaps when VSL complete their new solo strings at some point this year, that will become a viable alternative for stuff like this. As they provide Expression Maps for Dorico for those who don't want to write their own, it makes things relatively straightforward (though I'd still probably prefer the NP performance Engine which now looks like a forlorn hope)

[krummholz]

from my memory, the dynamism and passion in this music has improved with the Dorico version though. as you know, for me the tonal qualities of the NotePerformer strings continue to grate. Perhaps when VSL complete their new solo strings at some point this year, that will become a viable alternative for stuff like this. As they provide Expression Maps for Dorico for those who don't want to write their own, it makes things relatively straightforward (though I'd still probably prefer the NP performance Engine which now looks like a forlorn hope)

The NP solo strings grate for me as well, as I think I've said. But of course VSL's solo strings package is just that, solo strings. How does one integrate other instruments, such as winds, into a chamber ensemble in Dorico? For example, how was your Quintet for cl, bcl, string trio rendered? I have some ideas for a piece that I think could be a clarinet trio, with two stringed instruments that could end up being any two of violin, viola, or cello, depending on the registers and timbres the piece requires. I don't think it's possible to integrate a NP clarinet with VSL solo strings, or is it?

[lunar22]

In Dorico you can separately assign different vst libraries to every instrument if you desire so there's no issue in mixing and matching. However if you include NotePerformer, that requires to use its own playback template as a starting point. This is what I did for the Cinematic Studio strings in my clarinet quintet but then the two clarinets from VSL were added. They can co-exist quite happily -- you just assign the relevant Expression Map for every channel (all under the PLAY tab in Dorico)

[krummholz]

In Dorico you can separately assign different vst libraries to every instrument if you desire so there's no issue in mixing and matching. However if you include NotePerformer, that requires to use its own playback template as a starting point. This is what I did for the Cinematic Studio strings in my clarinet quintet but then the two clarinets from VSL were added. They can co-exist quite happily -- you just assign the relevant Expression Map for every channel (all under the PLAY tab in Dorico)

So the clarinets were from the symphonic package? Or do they sell chamber versions of wind instruments separately, like with solo strings? That could wind up being very expensive!

[lunar22]

well my clarinets were just from the full orchestra Special Edition -- the whole orchestra is currently a reasonable €299. it's also possible to get the full versions (the Special Edition has fewer articulations) of all Studio woodwinds for slightly less. You can also buy the newest Synchron instruments individually but then you're talking €99 for a single clarinet. VSL are far from the cheapest on the market but the programming is quite reliable.