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Re: Sir William Walton
« Reply #760 on: September 21, 2022, 01:24:06 PM »
Writing in 1967 the musicologist Deryck Cooke regarded Walton's First Symphony, along with Vaughan Williams's 4th Symphony, Sibelius's 7th Symphony and Nielsen's 5th Symphony to be amongst the greatest of the 20th Century.
Two other recommendations for recordings:
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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Re: Sir William Walton
« Reply #761 on: September 21, 2022, 01:37:51 PM »
It seems that I'm the only one to have the Haitink/P.O. recording of the Symphony No. 1 in high esteem here. It was the first recording I ever heard of the piece and it still remains as my favorite overall. In spite of its "slow pacing", it doesn't lack power and punch, and the timpani are glorious.
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Re: Sir William Walton
« Reply #762 on: September 21, 2022, 02:56:22 PM »
I saw the Rattle Walton 1 at the used bookstore the other day for $1. I didn't buy it. Was this the right call?

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Re: Sir William Walton
« Reply #763 on: September 21, 2022, 09:47:47 PM »
I saw the Rattle Walton 1 at the used bookstore the other day for $1. I didn't buy it. Was this the right call?

Yes.... I actually like Rattle (particularly in his CBSO days) more than a lot of folk and you'd think that Walton 1 would be right up his street.  Its perfectly good but simply put there are better - I just don't think Rattle "believes" in Walton (or Elgar or Vaughan Williams really) so its a case of going through the motions rather than performing from the heart.

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Re: Sir William Walton
« Reply #764 on: September 21, 2022, 09:53:58 PM »
It seems that I'm the only one to have the Haitink/P.O. recording of the Symphony No. 1 in high esteem here. It was the first recording I ever heard of the piece and it still remains as my favorite overall. In spite of its "slow pacing", it doesn't lack power and punch, and the timpani are glorious.
No, I like it too Cesar - I had the LP.
Another one of my favourite Walton discs is:
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

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Re: Sir William Walton
« Reply #765 on: September 22, 2022, 12:24:29 AM »
Is the Ashkenazy's recording of Walton's symphonies the same as this one?



Here the symphonies are matched with the Violin Concerto (Chung/Previn/LSO), the Viola Concerto (Neubauer/Litton/BSO) and the Cello Concerto (Cohen/Litton/BSO).
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Re: Sir William Walton
« Reply #766 on: September 22, 2022, 12:39:51 AM »
Is the Ashkenazy's recording of Walton's symphonies the same as this one?



Here the symphonies are matched with the Violin Concerto (Chung/Previn/LSO), the Viola Concerto (Neubauer/Litton/BSO) and the Cello Concerto (Cohen/Litton/BSO).
Yes, it is indeed.
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Re: Sir William Walton
« Reply #767 on: September 22, 2022, 01:54:47 AM »
Thank you all for the suggestions, you've given me much to think about. Being a great Ashkenazy's fan, his Symphonies recording looks very tempting, but so do the others (Previn, Sargent, Haitink, Thomson, etc.).......I'll listen to as much as I can before deciding. I'm also very curious to try the Concertos and the Henry V film score.
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Re: Sir William Walton
« Reply #768 on: September 22, 2022, 02:06:31 AM »
Thank you all for the suggestions, you've given me much to think about. Being a great Ashkenazy's fan, his Symphonies recording looks very tempting, but so do the others (Previn, Sargent, Haitink, Thomson, etc.).......I'll listen to as much as I can before deciding. I'm also very curious to try the Concertos and the Henry V film score.
I'd recommend this recording:
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

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Re: Sir William Walton
« Reply #769 on: September 22, 2022, 02:17:27 AM »
And so that Ilaria has a short amuse-gueule of Henry V, this little jewel, Touch her Soft Lips and Part (here conducted by Marriner --I don't know if it0s extracted from the CD Jeffrey posted above):

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/hBzapuX_31s" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/hBzapuX_31s</a>

And another favourite Walton piece, which might become pertinent in some months' time (I certainly hope it does ;)):

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/QANTLzPTzp4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/QANTLzPTzp4</a>

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Re: Sir William Walton
« Reply #770 on: September 22, 2022, 06:08:12 AM »
Thank you all for the suggestions, you've given me much to think about. Being a great Ashkenazy's fan, his Symphonies recording looks very tempting, but so do the others (Previn, Sargent, Haitink, Thomson, etc.).......I'll listen to as much as I can before deciding. I'm also very curious to try the Concertos and the Henry V film score.

The Ashkenazy disc is very good - my mistake to omit it from my list of options.  Walton was very smitten by Chung (musically and otherwise!) and her recording of the violin conc is excellent - as are the Litton other two string concerti.  The Cello concerto is one of Walton's least instantly appealing works but its grown on me over time.  In other words that Decca Twofer is a good bet!

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Re: Sir William Walton
« Reply #771 on: September 22, 2022, 08:30:07 AM »
The Ashkenazy disc is very good - my mistake to omit it from my list of options.  Walton was very smitten by Chung (musically and otherwise!) and her recording of the violin conc is excellent - as are the Litton other two string concerti.  The Cello concerto is one of Walton's least instantly appealing works but its grown on me over time.  In other words that Decca Twofer is a good bet!

Thanks, so that set could be a good compromise to start exploring Walton, good to know!

And so that Ilaria has a short amuse-gueule of Henry V, this little jewel, Touch her Soft Lips and Part (here conducted by Marriner --I don't know if it0s extracted from the CD Jeffrey posted above):

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/hBzapuX_31s" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/hBzapuX_31s</a>

And another favourite Walton piece, which might become pertinent in some months' time (I certainly hope it does ;)):

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/QANTLzPTzp4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/QANTLzPTzp4</a>

Thanks, Rafael, every suggestion is very welcome, I'll have a listen to these pieces too!

I'd recommend this recording:

Henry V

Christopher Plummer, Neville Marriner/Academy of St Martin in the Fields


It looks really promising, Plummer, as well as Olivier, was a well-known shakespearean interpreter.
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Re: Sir William Walton
« Reply #772 on: September 23, 2022, 02:36:51 AM »
Thanks, so that set could be a good compromise to start exploring Walton, good to know!

Thanks, Rafael, every suggestion is very welcome, I'll have a listen to these pieces too!

It looks really promising, Plummer, as well as Olivier, was a well-known shakespearean interpreter.
Yes, I have the Plummer and Olivier versions, and both are excellent in different ways. I also have a version narrated by John 'Bergerac' Nettles and Michael Sheen (rather too closely miked with the orchestra rather distant). BBC Music Magazine released an enjoyable version narrated by Samuel West. The Plummer is the most complete version, but Olivier has a unique atmosphere to it. I don't understand why the Olivier Hamlet has never AFAIK been released on CD.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).