Started by Owen David, May 24, 2023, 05:01:08 PM
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Quote from: Owen David on May 24, 2023, 05:01:08 PMMr. Wagner has beautiful moments but bad quarters of an hour.Was Rossini right or wrong?
Quote from: DavidW on May 25, 2023, 05:00:07 AMDead wrong. So many jealous composers back then...
Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on May 25, 2023, 05:42:46 AMEveryone says Wagner should be cut. Problem is, nobody ever says what passages.
Quote from: DavidW on May 25, 2023, 05:00:07 AMSo many jealous composers back then...
Quote from: Florestan on May 25, 2023, 09:54:35 AMWagner first and foremost, with his almost pathological jealousy of Mendelssohn and Meyerbeer. Rossini, otoh, was the most successful and celebrated operatic composer of the first half of the 19C, retired in full glory and enjoying a luxurious, hedonistic lifestyle. He had zero reasons to be jealous of Wagner.
Quote from: Florestan on May 25, 2023, 09:44:26 AMI'd say, for works prior to The Ring, cut everything right after the overture. For the Ring, cut everything save the purely orchestral numbers.
Quote from: Florestan on May 25, 2023, 04:02:39 AMAsk my avatar. He also said with respect to Lohengrin: One can't judge [it] after a first hearing, and I certainly don't intend to hear it a second time.My favorite bon mot about Wagner is by David Randolph, though: Parsifal is the kind of opera that starts at six o'clock and after it has been going for three hours, you look at your watch and it says 6.20.
Quote from: Owen David on May 26, 2023, 12:10:38 PMWell they always cut Hamlet and no one seems to mind. I've never of a theatregoer demanding a refund on their ticket for not getting the full monty.
Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on May 26, 2023, 04:16:27 PMFalse analogy between verbal and musical structures. And you haven't told me what passages in Wagner's works you'd cut.
Quote from: Jo498 on May 28, 2023, 01:59:49 AMThere are common "stage cuts" in Tristan, Act II, parts (about 10min or so) of the long love duet. AFAIK done at least partly to leave the singers some strength for the last act (Isolde has a longer rest before the end, but Tristan obviously not)
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