Orchestrations of Chamber/Solo Music

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prémont

Quote from: DaveF on October 17, 2023, 12:56:08 PMNielsen's Commotio (organ) has been orchestrated by Bo Holten.  It's perhaps my all-time favourite Nielsen, so I have no intention of listing to this travesty - especially as Mr Holten writes that the organ original is over-long, and that his effort might be called Nielsen's Symphony no.7.

I have also avoided Holten's orchestration for the same reason.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

San Antone

Mussorgsky - Pictures at an Exhibition (Ravel)

I was reminded of this by the post by @ritter.

Karl Henning

Quote from: premont on October 17, 2023, 04:22:05 PMI have also avoided Holten's orchestration for the same reason.
Interesting. I believe a friend gave me this long ago. I should check and listen ....
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classicalgeek

Albeniz's 'Iberia' was partially orchestrated by Enrique Fernandez Arbos, who did five selections. Carlos Surinach orchestrated the remaining seven selections.

I've played around with orchestrating some piano pieces myself - I find it absolutely fascinating! ;D
So much great music, so little time...

Maestro267

Quote from: San Antone on October 17, 2023, 04:46:10 PMMussorgsky - Pictures at an Exhibition (Ravel)

And Stokowski, and Wood, and Breiner, and Ashkenazy, and Emerson, Lake & Palmer...

Jo498

Lots of Debussy's piano music have been orchestrated by different people, IIRC the Naxos Debussy series has all of them.
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

pjme

#26
A few rarities:


many years ago I heard on RTBF an orchestration of Francks Chorals by -possibly - a Spanish composer.
I'll contact Musiq3.




https://youtu.be/9oxqFp247vk?si=gSzMOQTx1yt5RWLp

http://www.lucbrewaeys.com/lucbrewaeys_wp/works/preludes-book-ii-by-claude-debussy-recomposed-for-orchestra/


pjme

#27




More arrangements/orchestrations by Geert van Keulen. He also orchestrated songs by Mussorgsky
https://www.muziekweb.nl/Link/DAX3205/De-kinderkamer

Maestro267

I'm  a bit disappointed to learn that the Weinberg Chamber Symphonies are merely arrangements rather than original works. Also what is the orchestrated Piano Quintet named as?

San Antone

Debussy orchestrated the third and first Gymnopédies by Erik Satie.

DaveF

Quote from: Karl Henning on October 17, 2023, 01:11:40 PMYou're certainly right that he did arrange it, though I don't recall for just what ensemble, and you may well be right that it was piano trio.

Bit of research reveals that it's for flute, clarinet, violin, cello, piano - i.e. the Pierrot Lunaire ensemble.  I even have an old disc coupling the two works, played by the Fires of London (originally the Pierrot Players), so should have known.
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Jo498

Wow, the Otterloo D 940 is better than the Joachim Grand Duo (there are better orchestrations of the Grand Duo but Joachim's the only frequently recorded), it almost makes me change my attitude towards such orchestrations(although I love the Schönberg Bach and Brahms also as guilty pleasures).
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

Jo498

Quote from: DaveF on October 18, 2023, 06:11:00 AMBit of research reveals that it's for flute, clarinet, violin, cello, piano - i.e. the Pierrot Lunaire ensemble.  I even have an old disc coupling the two works, played by the Fires of London (originally the Pierrot Players), so should have known.
This was probably what the Verein für musikalische Privataufführungen could muster, for which they also did Strauss waltzes, Schönberg began LvdE (later completed by Rainer Riehn) and some of Schönberg's students did at least one Bruckner symphony and Mahler's 4th. All these are usually string quartet, piano and a few woodwinds (or in the waltzes harmonium).
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

San Antone

One of my favorite transcriptions:

MAHLER - Symphony No. 4 - Chamber Version


pjme


Roasted Swan

Quote from: pjme on October 18, 2023, 02:32:37 AMA few rarities:


many years ago I heard on RTBF an orchestration of Francks Chorals by -possibly - a Spanish composer.
I'll contact Musiq3.




https://youtu.be/9oxqFp247vk?si=gSzMOQTx1yt5RWLp

http://www.lucbrewaeys.com/lucbrewaeys_wp/works/preludes-book-ii-by-claude-debussy-recomposed-for-orchestra/



Pierné orchestrated Franck's Prelude, Choral & Fugue......

lordlance

#36
Thanks to everyone for their inputs. List has been updated. I've also added *my* criteria for inclusion. You can disagree but this is what I am looking for specifically.
If you are interested in listening to orchestrations of solo/chamber music, you might be interested in this thread.
Also looking for recommendations on neglected conductors thread.

pjme

#37

1988! The Antwerp orchestra is now
https://www.antwerpsymphonyorchestra.be/
Jaap van Zweden is back there with Mahler 6.....
Monteux recorded this work in 1944 and the Liège PhO did it ca 2009 with Pierre Bleuse.

lordlance

Happy to announce a major improvement on the list. I've added links to performances for all pieces (YouTube when possible; Spotify otherwise) and now differentiate if there are different orchestrations (piano vs string orchestra vs large orchestra)
If you are interested in listening to orchestrations of solo/chamber music, you might be interested in this thread.
Also looking for recommendations on neglected conductors thread.

classicalgeek

Some Rachmaninov:

His Prelude in C-sharp minor exists in at least two orchestral versions. First by Leopold Stokowski:


and another by Sir Henry Wood:



The Prelude in G minor from op. 23 was orchestrated by Lucien Cailliet:


There are a few other Rachmaninov preludes that have been orchestrated (like op. 23 no. 3 and op. 32 no. 3) also available on YouTube.

Then there are selections from his Etudes Tableaux in gorgeous orchestrations by Ottorino Respighi:

So much great music, so little time...