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Re: Mozart Piano Concertos
« Reply #520 on: December 18, 2014, 03:38:26 PM »
But best of all get all the Mozart concertos Kocsis recorded.

They are awfully difficult to find. Do you know any illegal sources? Seriously.

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« Reply #521 on: December 19, 2014, 12:17:15 AM »
Another vote for Casadesus/Szell/Cleveland. A must.

I also love Danny Boy's cycle on DG with the Berlin Phil (big Romantic readings, kind of the anti-Szell) but I'm probably in the minority here.

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Pity Curzon didn't do a cycle. These are magical:


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« Reply #522 on: December 19, 2014, 02:51:30 PM »
Bump.


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« Reply #523 on: December 20, 2014, 03:08:46 AM »
Bump.

Good idea. :) I took the liberty of moving the discussion fromthe considering thread to here.

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Re: Mozart Piano Concertos
« Reply #524 on: December 20, 2014, 05:35:20 AM »
They are awfully difficult to find. Do you know any illegal sources? Seriously.

Isn't most of it available via Hungaroton's website, or on spotify? The thing I'm looking for is a good HIP chamber scale PC 27. I have the one from Daniel Isoir but it seems workmanlike to me.
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« Reply #525 on: December 20, 2014, 06:38:27 AM »
Isn't most of it available via Hungaroton's website, or on spotify?

No spotify where I am. Thanks for mentioning Hungaroton website, I haven't checked it in years, it used to be pretty rudimentary back then. They now do seem to offer the two Hungaroton discs as flac downloads. That's not most of it though, half actually: two discs on Hungaroton (not counting multiple piano concertos), one disc on Harmonia Mundi and one on Philips.

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Re: Mozart Piano Concertos
« Reply #526 on: December 20, 2014, 07:15:39 AM »
The thing I'm looking for is a good HIP chamber scale PC 27.

What about Bilson/Gardiner?
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Re: Mozart Piano Concertos
« Reply #527 on: December 20, 2014, 07:36:01 AM »
No spotify where I am. Thanks for mentioning Hungaroton website, I haven't checked it in years, it used to be pretty rudimentary back then. They now do seem to offer the two Hungaroton discs as flac downloads. That's not most of it though, half actually: two discs on Hungaroton (not counting multiple piano concertos), one disc on Harmonia Mundi and one on Philips.

Here's what I have

The two and three piano concertos with Ranki and Schiff

A recording with 19, 17 and 11

A recording with 8, 13 and 25

A recording with 12 and 23

A recording with 6, 18 and 27

A recording of him conducting K414, his son Kristián at the piano

Let me know if you want any of this.


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Re: Mozart Piano Concertos
« Reply #528 on: December 20, 2014, 07:37:07 AM »
What about Bilson/Gardiner?

I really want something smaller scale, the sort of thing Schoonderwoerd might do. I also want something with a real valedictory feel.
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« Reply #529 on: December 20, 2014, 07:50:48 AM »
Good idea. :) I took the liberty of moving the discussion fromthe considering thread to here.

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Also a good idea!

I decided on some odd choices. Piazzini withe Leningrad Soloists for about half a dozen late concerti, and Kirschnereit for a complete set. I wanted a smaller ensemble approach, and a quick tempo approach. Not that those are necessarily right, but they are what I want to hear at the moment. Plus modern sound.

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« Reply #530 on: December 20, 2014, 07:54:31 AM »
I really want something smaller scale, the sort of thing Schoonderwoerd might do. I also want something with a real valedictory feel.
I don't know about valedictory feel, but yes very small scale is what I want. Larger than the Hummel reductions, but I can see an orchestra of a dozen or so for some of the concerti.

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« Reply #531 on: December 20, 2014, 08:27:20 AM »
I don't know about valedictory feel, but yes very small scale is what I want. Larger than the Hummel reductions, but I can see an orchestra of a dozen or so for some of the concerti.

Oh but something Hummel sized could be wonderful in k 595 I think, but as far as I know Hummel never arranged this one.
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« Reply #532 on: December 20, 2014, 08:58:44 AM »
A recording with 19, 17 and 11

A recording with 8, 13 and 25

Let me know if you want any of this.

These two (HM and Philips) would be great, thanks!


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« Reply #533 on: December 20, 2014, 09:49:58 AM »
Oh but something Hummel sized could be wonderful in k 595 I think, but as far as I know Hummel never arranged this one.

I have heard only one and a half of his arrangements, but I thought they were very well done.

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« Reply #534 on: December 20, 2014, 02:38:38 PM »
As mentioned on the other thread (I guess here now) I've been exploring the Kraus/Simon cycle. The orchestra is bad. The sound is worse. Kraus is magical. Can't stop listening.

Tharaud's performance of the Jenamy has also been rightly praised.

The thing I'm looking for is a good HIP chamber scale PC 27.
And 3rding this.

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« Reply #535 on: December 20, 2014, 09:40:35 PM »
As mentioned on the other thread (I guess here now) I've been exploring the Kraus/Simon cycle. The orchestra is bad. The sound is worse. Kraus is magical. Can't stop listening.

On LP? Or was that ever released on CD?
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Re: Mozart Piano Concertos
« Reply #536 on: December 20, 2014, 09:43:40 PM »
Another vote for Casadesus/Szell/Cleveland. A must.

I also love Danny Boy's cycle on DG with the Berlin Phil (big Romantic readings, kind of the anti-Szell) but I'm probably in the minority here.

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I too love the Barenboim/BPO cycle. I've been listening to it this month. I'm a big fan of large romantic readings such as these.

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Re: Mozart Piano Concertos
« Reply #537 on: December 20, 2014, 09:46:16 PM »
Interesting you say this, as I have read that Serkin was in his 80s when that set was recorded and he was well past his prime.

Have you heard any of his earlier recordings with Busch, Schneider, Szell or Ormandy?
Actually, I don't think I have heard Serkin's Mozart in his prime!:-[

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Re: Mozart Piano Concertos
« Reply #538 on: December 20, 2014, 09:59:35 PM »
I also love Danny Boy's cycle on DG with the Berlin Phil (big Romantic readings, kind of the anti-Szell) but I'm probably in the minority here.

Sarge

I am not finding it on amazon. Do you mean Teldec? http://www.amazon.com/Mozart-Piano-Concertos-Nos-20-27/dp/B000000SDY
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Re: Mozart Piano Concertos
« Reply #539 on: December 20, 2014, 09:59:48 PM »
Actually, I don't think I have heard Serkin's Mozart in his prime!:-[

http://www.amazon.com/Piano-Concertos-10-12-14/dp/B0000027IZ

This set has performances from 55, 61 and 62 (and one rondo from 77.)
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