Bug Report 2024

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Madiel

#300
March 03, 2025, 05:54:16 AM
Quote from: ritter on March 03, 2025, 04:48:44 AMYes, but the issue here is not whether Florestan turns his computer off or not. The issue is trying to help Harry with his problem...

Sigh.

I know. And I was trying to clarify what Florestan was saying in order to understand how practical or relevant it was to Harry's issue.

For which purpose, you jumping in and non-answering my question was of no assistance. Okay?
Freedom of speech means you get to speak in response to what I said.

ritter

#301
March 03, 2025, 05:56:55 AM
Quote from: Madiel on March 03, 2025, 05:54:16 AMSigh.

I know. And I was trying to clarify what Florestan was saying in order to understand how practical or relevant it was to Harry's issue.

For which purpose, you jumping in and non-answering my question was of no assistance. Okay?
You really love to start an argument where there's none, no? Sigh indeed.

This time you'll not misunderstand it: Para ti la perra chica...
 « Ce qui est le contraire de la musique , c'est l'arbitraire, la sottise et la gratuité  »  Antonin Artaud

Madiel

#302
March 03, 2025, 05:59:07 AM Last Edit: March 03, 2025, 06:09:29 AM by Madiel
Quote from: ritter on March 03, 2025, 05:56:55 AMYou really love to start an argument where there's none, no? Sigh indeed.

This time you'll not misunderstand it: Para ti la perra chica...

You're the one telling me that the issue is Harry's situation as if I didn't understand that. Which is the SECOND irrelevant thing you felt the need to tell me. Shoo.
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Madiel

#303
March 03, 2025, 06:01:34 AM Last Edit: March 03, 2025, 06:04:11 AM by Madiel
Quote from: Harry on March 03, 2025, 04:55:07 AMBelieve me, I have done all I possibly can. I even gave my tech firm who keeps all my gear in order to find out who or what the culprit was. They found out what it was, and this is what I posted several times in this thread. The ball lies in the hands of Rob, he must either change to a server that is trusted by Google, or he may let it go for now. I am waiting for a solution.

Given that nobody else seems to have this problem currently, it's not clear that the solution must be at Rob's end. The main clue that we have is that only Google products seem to be affected. So what is Google looking at that other browsers are not?
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Brian

#304
March 03, 2025, 06:22:12 AM
I have not had a problem viewing the website on Google Chrome. Gmail, however, thinks PM notifications are spam. Since I visit GMG 3-4 times a day, I don't miss the emails. Also, I'm not as popular as Harry is  ;D

Madiel

#305
March 03, 2025, 06:37:08 AM
This is me briefly trying Google Chrome rather than Firefox. And it didn't complain to me about the website at all.

Specifically, this is me using an old version of Chrome because this computer is still running Windows 7 and it's politely telling me I need to upgrade to get Chrome updates...
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Madiel

#306
March 03, 2025, 06:44:02 AM Last Edit: March 03, 2025, 06:46:01 AM by Madiel
This page lists various reasons there could be a problem at Harry's end, not at the server end (to be clear, it lists both kinds of problems): https://au.siteground.com/kb/fix-net-err-cert-authority-invalid/

Possible solutions at Harry's end include clearing out the browser cache to get rid of old cookies, making sure the system time and date are set correctly, and just updating to the latest version of the browser or operating system. It also says some browser extensions can cause problems, which would be one explanation of why Harry has a problem but most people don't (if he has a browser extension that other people don't use).

I know I've had issues with other sites in the past that were miraculously solved by clearing the cache, so I would definitely give that a go @Harry.
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Kalevala

#307
March 03, 2025, 06:46:49 AM
Quote from: Brian on March 03, 2025, 06:22:12 AMI have not had a problem viewing the website on Google Chrome. Gmail, however, thinks PM notifications are spam. Since I visit GMG 3-4 times a day, I don't miss the emails. Also, I'm not as popular as Harry is  ;D
Brian, interesting!  One thought that has crossed my brain; could it have something to do with the country where Harry lives...in terms of security/restrictions/warnings?  I don't know, just a thought.

And Google Chrome might be the issue; I don't use it here.  I suspect that Harry has the latest and up to date computers at his end.

K

ritter

#308
March 03, 2025, 07:19:09 AM
FWIW, I access GMG via chrome (my desktop computer and my Android mobile phone), Safari (iPad) and, very occasionally, Edge (my desktop computer). I never have any issues entering the site never het messages that it may be dangerous or dubious. My only issue is with the e-mail notifícatenos, which all land in my junk folder in Outlook. But just by looking at the alerts or messages icons on the top left of the forum screen, I know if anything requires my attention. 
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Harry

#309
March 03, 2025, 07:31:42 AM
Quote from: Madiel on March 03, 2025, 06:01:34 AMGiven that nobody else seems to have this problem currently, it's not clear that the solution must be at Rob's end. The main clue that we have is that only Google products seem to be affected. So what is Google looking at that other browsers are not?

If I am not mistaken, Ultralinear had the same problem, so I am not the only one. Furthermore Google told me personally why this happens, this I also wrote down already.
All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.

Madiel

#310
March 03, 2025, 07:34:20 AM
Quote from: Harry on March 03, 2025, 07:31:42 AMIf I am not mistaken, Ultralinear had the same problem, so I am not the only one. Furthermore Google told me personally why this happens, this I also wrote down already.

If most people's computers say the certificate is valid, most likely the certificate IS valid. It would be very strange for the certificate to be invalid but nobody else is picking it up.

See the other post I made with the link to the site that explains the reasons why a particular person's computer might reject a valid certificate. It does happen.
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Harry

#311
March 03, 2025, 07:38:45 AM
Well to be honest, I have given up on the issue, I did clear up the cache, have no extensions added that could cause problems, the system is kept up to date by a professional IT firm, and they know what they are doing. Furthermore Google told me personally that the servers Rob is using are not safe, and that is the reason why they put all GMG's emails in the spam map. I designate them safe, and move them to my inbox. And I kept doing this for almost 7 months.
All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.

Madiel

#312
March 03, 2025, 01:35:48 PM
Certain companies I deal with have a reflexive habit of saying "the problem's not us" before eventually coming back and saying "oh yeah, the problem is us".

Which is to say I base my assessment of situations on the logic of it, not what a company says.

I'm not going to comment on the emails. I think they get marked as spam for me at least some of the time but that doesn't bother me. But the invalid certificate thing is pretty unlikely to be an actual problem with the certificate.
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