Avant garde music for that piece of furniture called a piano.

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https://nicolashodges.bandcamp.com/album/saunders-boucourechliev-clarke-riehm-archipels

I think there are some really cool Skriabin vibes in James Clarke's Second Piano Sonata  on this Nick Hodges release -- and maybe some strong Finnissy vibes too (Etched in Bright Sunlight)

Anyway -- I may be wrong, but even if I am it's a nice bit of music.
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Mandryka

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Iota

Quote from: Mandryka on April 13, 2024, 01:38:00 AMHammerklavier, Bernhard Lang style


I know nothing about Lang, but that's an interesting bit of deconstruction/riffing on a theme, a touch Ives-ian at times I thought. And hearing the 106 1st movt afterwards through the prism of its probing, worked in a beneficial way for me, the piece seems like a successful little token of love.

Mandryka

https://m.soundcloud.com/katapataptwsi/james-erber-elided-dilapidations-after-cpe-bach2014-2015

My favourite pianist, Pavlos Antoniadis, plays James Erber's Elided Dilapidations.

He uses existing music, like Finnissy and even Ferneyhough (I think - I don't understand what he actually does with Taverner's Dum Transiset) and Rihm sometimes - it's a thing in the compositions of the past 25 years, at least in Britain and Germany. And indeed see above for Bernhard Lang.
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Skogwald

Quote from: Mandryka on January 27, 2021, 12:57:07 PMOver lunch today I played a friend who knows nothing about classical music Boulez's second sonata. She commented that parts of it sound like the free improvisations of Cecil Taylor. And here they are and they are rather good, even the "passagework" is thrilling!



I can't say that anything I'm hearing reminds me of Boulez though!

What happens in music like this is interesting. It's an outpouring from the pianist. Somehow the pianist's burning intensity is communicated through the music. This is mostly through playing fast and playing quite brutally. It is not unlike a lot of mainstream classical music in that respect - visceral Beethoven like the Grosse Fugue is the obvious thing, except it's nothing like a fugue! Maybe the Schumann toccata - but it's much better than that! Richard Barrett once mentioned it positively and it's very much like stuff he has done - a lot of notes!

If only I could find someone who plays the Boulez sonata like that!

I know this is a classical music board but I must comment since Cecil Taylor might be one of my favorite artists of all time. His style of free jazz is extraordinarily intense, creative and thrilling. I would recommend his album Indent if you are into challenging modern classical music!

Another point: I wish there was more crossover between free jazz and contemporary classical. I feel like the classical world would benefit from a bit more freedom and improvisation generally.

Mandryka

I have to say that the Killmayer in this Volker Banfield CD is extremely impressive. Later, post new complexity, Finnissy avant la lettre. Volker Banfield's first release by the looks of it.



https://thejazzden.bandcamp.com/album/works-of-wilhelm-killmayer-alexander-skrjabin-and-lubo-fi-er
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