Political Correctness

Started by dtwilbanks, September 11, 2007, 11:00:32 AM

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dtwilbanks

How much do you care? How much should you care? Do people, or does the media, overreact to actions or words they consider politically incorrect? Should we make a mountain out of a mole hill? Or is the mole hill I see really a mountain or vice versa?

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I found that post very offensive

dtwilbanks


Norbeone

Personally, I think too many people take things too seriously. I don't see why some can be so easily offended by what one person says, especially if it's on television or some other media format. Just laugh at it!

;D

BachQ

Quote from: Norbeone on September 11, 2007, 12:25:19 PM
I don't see why some can be so easily offended by what one person says,

F___ Off ........

DavidW

Quote from: dtwilbanks on September 11, 2007, 11:00:32 AM
How much do you care? How much should you care? Do people, or does the media, overreact to actions or words they consider politically incorrect? Should we make a mountain out of a mole hill? Or is the mole hill I see really a mountain or vice versa?

I think it's more important to people who have to deal with a wide variety of people in their lives.  To appear to be a bit unnatural, not quite yourself and respect pc to the letter will work better than to ignore it and accidently offend somebody.  I'm not a pc type of person, but I understand that some people have to be, and it does have a place.

маразм1

Quote from: dtwilbanks on September 11, 2007, 11:00:32 AM
How much do you care? How much should you care? Do people, or does the media, overreact to actions or words they consider politically incorrect? Should we make a mountain out of a mole hill? Or is the mole hill I see really a mountain or vice versa?

the most hillarious example I can give is the following: 
In college, one of my math (calculus) textbooks only used women in problems.  For example, A construction worker can dig a ditch bbla bla bla,  how long will it take HER?

hornteacher

Quote from: DavidW on September 11, 2007, 06:24:28 PM
I think it's more important to people who have to deal with a wide variety of people in their lives.

Very true.  Its out of control in the school systems here.

m_gigena

Quote from: marazm1 on September 11, 2007, 06:29:59 PM
the most hillarious example I can give is the following: 
In college, one of my math (calculus) textbooks only used women in problems.  For example, A construction worker can dig a ditch bbla bla bla,  how long will it take HER?

My book with applications on Macroeconomics also uses women. I tought it would be some gramatical rule I ignore.

MishaK

It's easy to laugh about PC when you're in the cultural/ethnic majority (and male). But having lived as a foreigner in both the US (where PC is taken seriously, perhaps too seriously) and in Germany (where it is not), I can tell you what a difference a PC discourse makes. When certain just patently idiotic attitudes are prevented a priori from becoming part of the general discourse, it makes for a much better atmosphere to live in. The difference is that average people who have no particular prejudices in a PC environment don't pick up and perpetuate the idiotic prejudices of others. Most people just don't actively think about what might be offensive or what might poison an atmosphere. But when others can freely perpetuate prejudices and chauvinism, they often pick up on it and it adds to an unpleasant environment. It's only a few who are real racists and chauvinists. But if their attitudes are accepted as normal, then ordinary people start perpetuating them without reflection as well. It is this that PC prevents. Now, of course in the US, PC often goes full circle and becomes a weapon of censorship for the supremely repressed and the more puritanically inclined. That is idiotic. But even with its flaws and bizarre outgrowths, a PC environment is still better than one that isn't PC.

Josquin des Prez

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I think PC is a form of intellectual oppression and a clear denial to the right of dissent, and anybody who endorse it is an idiot.

Hector

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on September 11, 2007, 07:48:56 PM
I think PC is a form of intellectual oppression and a clear denial to the right of dissent, and anybody who endorse it is an idiot.

Political Correctness is an invention of the political right-wing annoyed that they can no longer, for example, go around calling blacks niggas or pakis, women bitches or tarts or make jokes about the physical or mentally impaired.

If that is what you call intellectual oppression and are denied that right of free expression then I suggest that you use that freedom to express yourself to some of the groups I've mentioned and see how long you last.

Another example of your total inability to think things through before you put your objectionable opinions into print.

One can like music from the middle-ages without adopting the attitudes, I would suggest.

karlhenning

Well, and there's another opinion, of course.

karlhenning

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Lethevich

Quote from: karlhenning on September 12, 2007, 03:46:48 AM
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karlhenning

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Harry


MishaK

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on September 11, 2007, 07:48:56 PM
I think PC is a form of intellectual oppression and a clear denial to the right of dissent, and anybody who endorse it is an idiot.

You seem to not read very carefully, so I will reiterate: "in the US, PC often goes full circle and becomes a weapon of censorship for the supremely repressed and the more puritanically inclined." Everything has to be used within reason.

Haffner

Quote from: O Mensch on September 12, 2007, 04:20:02 AM
"in the US, PC often goes full circle and becomes a weapon of censorship for the supremely repressed and the more puritanically inclined." Everything has to be used within reason.


O has alot of wisdom in his words here. I guess he felt it went without saying that pretty much any political,religious, etc. variable can and will be distorted to benefit individuals/groups.

That certainly isn't meant to minimize the state of Political Correctness is America (which sometimes comes across as offensively dishonest to me).

longears

Quote from: Lethe on September 12, 2007, 03:50:20 AM
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Thanks, Lethe...that provided the belly laugh I needed to get my morning off right!  (But it wasn't politically correct...I'm so ashamed of myself for laughing...I know--I'll use the coercive power of the state to bully everyone into thinking the way I think they should!)