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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #80 on: December 01, 2012, 02:53:41 AM »
Carpe Diem Quartet's Volume 3 (quartets 5 and 7) is now available for streaming on Naxos Music Library, but it says a CD release will come later.

That CD will go to my shopping list! I have recently purchased the first 2 volumes and enjoing them a great deal.  :)
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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #81 on: December 01, 2012, 09:01:34 AM »
I've just pulled the trigger at Amazon.ca, Cato.  (re:  Northern Flowers 5 volumes Taneyev Quartet recordings)

3 of them shall arrive before December 24th!  8)

Excellent decision.  Although the Carpe Diem discs are quite fine, the Taneyev Quartet's performances are more incisive.

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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #82 on: December 01, 2012, 02:25:57 PM »
Excellent decision.  Although the Carpe Diem discs are quite fine, the Taneyev Quartet's performances are more incisive.

You are the reason I pulled the trigger, Don!  :)  I know you love the Taneyev Q's performances.  I'm pretty sure I will to, plus they are Sergei Taneyev chamber works, so I can't possibly go wrong!

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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #83 on: December 02, 2012, 11:50:14 AM »
You are the reason I pulled the trigger, Don!  :)  I know you love the Taneyev Q's performances.  I'm pretty sure I will to, plus they are Sergei Taneyev chamber works, so I can't possibly go wrong!

Please do get back with opinions. I have long hesitated with Taneyev. I would like just one quartet.

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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #84 on: December 02, 2012, 12:09:46 PM »
What if it just reminds you of Schoenberg, eh? ; )
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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #85 on: December 02, 2012, 01:31:14 PM »
Excellent decision.  Although the Carpe Diem discs are quite fine, the Taneyev Quartet's performances are more incisive.

The Carpe Diem Quartet is based here in Ohio, so I am just a little biased!   ;D  But here is what I thought last year of one of the Taneyev Quartet performances: Chamber Nut: you will need to tell me if you hear the same problems when your set arrives!

Possibly a bad pressing?


I have just heard - for the first time - The Taneyev Quartet performing, or attempting to perform, the Eighth and Ninth Quartets of Sergei Taneyev.

This is not the edition I have, but here is a newer picture of what they are selling:



If you want to hear wavering microtones in these quartets, as if Taneyev had cosmically pre-channeled Bartok and maybe Penderecki, then this is the CD for you!   :o

There are spots in the slow movement of the Eighth Quartet where I thought an Alois Haba quartet had been spliced in suddenly!

Apparently intonation is a problem with the group on these recordings: I found some reviews complaining about the same thing on other quartets. 

Let's hope the new NAXOS survey of Taneyev Quartets will not show similar unintended experiments in quarter-tones!   ;D
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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #86 on: December 22, 2012, 05:45:52 PM »
Please do get back with opinions. I have long hesitated with Taneyev. I would like just one quartet.

Get them both, at once, Snypps.  However, if you can only get one set, do go with the Taneyev Quartet ensemble on Northern Flowers.

*Must have chamber music.*   and also *I can't believe Taneyev isn't considered in the Pantheon of the other great composers* (a-la 'I can't believe it's not butter'!)  ;D

Seriously, purchase!!  8)

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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #87 on: December 23, 2012, 01:25:43 AM »
Can you guys help me out on these Taneyevs?

I have:

the Melodia Taneyev: Quintet op.16,
the Melodia Taneyev: Quartett No.7 1880, by Oucharec, Loeclii, Solovjev, Levizon,
the Melodia Taneyev: Ioann Damaskin Cantate on Tolstoy by Yurlov Repub. Acad. Russian Chorus
the Melodia Taneyev: Violin & Cello Concerto No.2 op.5,
Sort of these records:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=11076844%40N00&q=taneyev&m=text

Are there any tips on listening with these?
Thanks.

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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #88 on: January 23, 2013, 06:46:49 PM »
Yay, Volume II and Volume IV of Taneyev's complete string quartets (Northern Flowers, Taneyev SQ) has finally arrived, after a long wait!!

That means I now have all five volumes, and ready to listen to all of them afresh.

May have to postpone my Shostakovich symphonies and Dvorak binges until I gorge myself completely in all my Taneyev discs!   ;D :D

'Tis the month for more Twirbling Tones!!  8)

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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #89 on: January 24, 2013, 05:10:36 AM »
Huzzah, Ray! Reminds me, I need to revisit the quartet disc I've got . . . .
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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #90 on: January 27, 2013, 04:59:18 PM »
Just about run through the Taneyev SQ cycle again, on the Northern Flowers label.  I, like Don, think very highly of the passionate performances.

Top notch sound and perfect playing?  Perhaps not, but the performances are wonderful, and I think bring out the Romantic Russian of Taneyev's music.  It has been said many times, but it is no exaggeration.  Taneyev, his signature stamp completely original, evokes a feeling of yes...a Russian Brahms or Bach.  Always blossoming with beautiful melodies, themes and rhythms, but always with some restraint.  Never full blown let her rip Romanticism, like Tchaikovsky (and I love that too!)  :)

Having said that, I love that Carpe Diem SQ is recording the complete cycle on Naxos.  I would not want to be with either set!  :)

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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #91 on: January 28, 2013, 05:45:40 PM »
What is the opposite of reverb, in music?  Is it: 'preverb'?  :D

I detect some 'preverb' on a few occasions in the Taneyev SQ Northern Flowers recordings.  In the Scherzo movement of the 7th quartet, I believe.  Just after the slow introduction, and just before the start of the lively tarantella-rhythm theme.

Probably just a recording oversight by the sound engineers.

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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #92 on: February 23, 2013, 04:25:47 PM »
I just received the following CD:



The Suite is perhaps better known for the violin.

The Canzona is a most expressive gem, and was originally intended for a clarinet, according to the notes. I was charmed by the opening bars and stayed that way throughout the work.

Another CD on Amazon also offers the Canzona for cello, plus a host of other works: it has 2 5-star reviews:



And YouTube offers this (the "Cincinnati Philharmonia" is the student orchestra of the College Conservatory of Music at the University of Cincinnati):

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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #93 on: February 25, 2013, 07:56:37 AM »
Just about run through the Taneyev SQ cycle again, on the Northern Flowers label.  I, like Don, think very highly of the passionate performances.

Top notch sound and perfect playing?  Perhaps not, but the performances are wonderful, and I think bring out the Romantic Russian of Taneyev's music.  It has been said many times, but it is no exaggeration.  Taneyev, his signature stamp completely original, evokes a feeling of yes...a Russian Brahms or Bach.  Always blossoming with beautiful melodies, themes and rhythms, but always with some restraint.  Never full blown let her rip Romanticism, like Tchaikovsky (and I love that too!)  :)

Having said that, I love that Carpe Diem SQ is recording the complete cycle on Naxos.  I would not want to be with either set!  :)

So, which SQ should I start off with?,... just one please. I'm not as prone to ST as most, I need 'the clincher'.

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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #94 on: February 25, 2013, 09:30:51 AM »
Used copies of the Odeon Trio recording that I mentioned much earlier in the thread have come way down in price.  It seems that prices in the Amazon Marketplace have come down overall, and I wonder if this is due to any Amazon policy changes.


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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #95 on: February 25, 2013, 09:36:25 AM »
The Wikipedia article on Taneyev includes the introductory clause, While Taneyev lacked an original creative gift . . . ouch! I say, ouch, son!

In line with snypsss's query . . . looks like string quartets nos. 7 through 9 are actually earlier works, FWIW.
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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #96 on: February 25, 2013, 09:58:30 AM »
So, which SQ should I start off with?,... just one please. I'm not as prone to ST as most, I need 'the clincher'.

OK, if I can only recommend just one quartet, I say try the 4th in A minor, Op.11

And you can try either the Carpe Diem SQ on Naxos and Taneyev SQ on Northern Flowers.

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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #97 on: February 25, 2013, 10:11:27 AM »
The Wikipedia article on Taneyev includes the introductory clause, While Taneyev lacked an original creative gift . . . ouch! I say, ouch, son!


Obviously written by a Yale man!   0:)
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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #98 on: February 25, 2013, 10:15:20 AM »
The Wikipedia article on Taneyev includes the introductory clause, While Taneyev lacked an original creative gift . . . ouch! I say, ouch, son!


Definitely the opposite of what I believe.  :o  If anything, he lacked a good 'promoter' for his music?

Oh well, it was decades, if not nearly a century, before Schubert's name became etched in stone.

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Re: Sergei Taneyev's Tent of Twirbling Tones
« Reply #99 on: February 26, 2013, 06:35:56 PM »
OK, if I can only recommend just one quartet, I say try the 4th in A minor, Op.11

And you can try either the Carpe Diem SQ on Naxos and Taneyev SQ on Northern Flowers.

ok, that the one then! ;)