Glaring Omission

[Florestan]

Italian opera. Although I'm hesitant to change that.

We can still be friends, Ray. 

[Florestan]

Thread duty:

Bruckner, Wagner.

Second Viennese School.

Boulez, Stockhausen, Xenakis and others ejusdem farinae.

[ChamberNut]

Thread duty:

Bruckner

I'll trade you three Bruckner symphonies for one Verdi opera? 🤣

[San Antone]

I can't think of any accidental "glaring" omissions.  After nearly 60 years of listening and actively discovering music, if I don't listen to something it is because previous efforts did not produce positive results. 

This would include most orchestral music except for a small number of works by composers I enjoy quite a lot.

[Florestan]

I'll trade you three Bruckner symphonies for one Verdi opera? 🤣

The only Bruckner symphony I like is his Fourth. And the Scherzo from the First. Also, whatever I heard from his sacred music. But don't ask me when was the last time I listened to Bruckner --- I can't remember. 

[Florestan]

if I don't listen to something it is because previous efforts did not produce positive results. 

Same here, actually. I did try all the music I listed above and decided it's not to my taste. Pursuing it further in the vain hope that one day I might begin to like it would be a waste of my time.

[Cato]

We should do a movie version. I've never seen It's a Wonderful Life. 

Mrs. Cato had avoided the movie for her entire life, until this past Christmas!  Excerpts of it had convinced her that she would dislike the movie.

For some reason, this year she said out of the blue: "Let's watch It's a Wonderful Life."

And she liked it very much!

Concerning our topic...

...I am another person lax in listening to Italian operas.  Excerpts yes, many excerpts, but less than a handful of complete ones. 

French operas: Poulenc's Dialogues of the Carmelites, Bizet's The Pearl Fishers, and a French translation of Prokofiev's The Fiery Angel.

German and Russian operas are no problem!   

Chamber Music used to be a huge deaf spot, but that has changed in the last 20 years or so.  Some exceptions: Beethoven's String Quartets and his Octet, Schoenberg's and Bartok's String Quartets.

[Spotted Horses]

If it's properly done, that single voice shouldn't need to strain. If the singer has to get shouty, then the conductor and/or engineers aren't getting the balance right. Very few composers wrote music in a way that intends the orchestra to overwhelm the singer. (The leading examples of composers doing so would be from opera: some moments in Wagner, and the entirety of Strauss' Salome and Elektra. Strauss did get better after those two.)

There are a few bits of orchestral lieder (Mahler's Ruckert lieder, etc) that work for me. But generally, straining or not, the vocal technique used by performers who sing with full symphony orchestras is not attractive to me.

[Lisztianwagner]

Schubert, Italian Opera and post-war composers.

[DavidW]

Monteverdi... just really haven't gotten around to him yet. I don't think I have listened to Rossini in a long time.

[hopefullytrusting]

Tried a little bit of Bax today.

I'm going to really need to be in the right mood to go down this English path.

I don't know what it is about them, but I find that group of composers so boring.

(Although, Jerusalem is a banger of an anthem. - Parry/Elgar)

[prémont]

There is such an abundance of music to listen to that I am quite occupied with the music I have actively chosen to listen to. Therefore the omissions are primarily due to limited listening time. However, I must confess that I have actively excluded opera and "Klavierlieder".

[ChamberNut]

Schubert, Italian Opera

I have to say that both of these come as somewhat of a surprise to me! Especially considering your musical passions and interests, I would have guessed that these were naturally a part of them. 

[71 dB]

Compared to baroque music, I haven't explored that much renaissance music.

In general I think it is the wrong angle to ask about omissions, because there are so much music out there it is nearly impossible to explore everything. It is only natural to have preferences and areas of interest which leads to "omissions."

[JBS]

Tried a little bit of Bax today.

I'm going to really need to be in the right mood to go down this English path.

I don't know what it is about them, but I find that group of composers so boring.

(Although, Jerusalem is a banger of an anthem. - Parry/Elgar)

With Bax and Arnold in particular, the symphonies are the meat, the tone poems and overtures the side dishes (although with Arnold in particular the side dishes can be very tasty).

[DavidW]

In general I think it is the wrong angle to ask about omissions, because there are so much music out there it is nearly impossible to explore everything. It is only natural to have preferences and areas of interest which leads to "omissions."

Hence the use of the word "glaring."

[Karl Henning]

Bruckner, Wagner.

Oh, you mean you've not heard this?--

Or I may have read you excessively literally.

[André]

Music before 1550 (I start with Palestrina, who I adore). Apart from him, not much if anything until Bach/Vivaldi/Handel. A bit of Purcell or Dowland maybe - but don't push, it's not going to work.

Then music from 1950 onward that adheres to a system that rejects other musics. Boulez, Xenakis, Crumb among the notables. A basket of deplorables if you ask me. Put the Helicopter Quartet on and I pull my bazooka to shoot them (although I do like a few of Stockhausen's early works). Carter is a genius, if sometimes hard to follow. The ones I can't abide are those who have rejected the past.

[ChamberNut]

Music before 1550 (I start with Palestrina, who I adore). Apart from him, not much if anything until Bach/Vivaldi/Handel. A bit of Purcell or Dowland maybe - but don't push, it's not going to work.

Then music from 1950 onward that adheres to a system that rejects other musics. Boulez, Xenakis, Crumb among the notables. A basket of deplorables if you ask me. Put the Helicopter Quartet on and I pull my bazooka to shoot them (although I do like a few of Stockhausen's early works). Carter is a genius, if sometimes hard to follow. The ones I can't abide are those who have rejected the past.

 

[JBS]

Music before 1550 (I start with Palestrina, who I adore). Apart from him, not much if anything until Bach/Vivaldi/Handel. A bit of Purcell or Dowland maybe - but don't push, it's not going to work.

Then music from 1950 onward that adheres to a system that rejects other musics. Boulez, Xenakis, Crumb among the notables. A basket of deplorables if you ask me. Put the Helicopter Quartet on and I pull my bazooka to shoot them (although I do like a few of Stockhausen's early works). Carter is a genius, if sometimes hard to follow. The ones I can't abide are those who have rejected the past.

I think you would find late Boulez very palatable.
But I don't mind you blasting KHS into oblivion.