The Snowshoed Sibelius

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Tapio Dimitriyevich Shostakovich

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Quote from: karlhenning on January 12, 2009, 10:57:49 AMYou can't mean it.
I mean it. I know nothing about I.S. - You know nothing about Haskell programming. This is perfectly allowed.

Peregrine

Not wanting to sound too pedantic, but Burglund's 1st cycle is with the Bournemouth Symphony orchestra, not Birmingham...
Yes, we have no bananas

karlhenning

Quote from: Wurstwasser on January 12, 2009, 08:11:48 PM
I mean it. I know nothing about I.S. - You know nothing about Haskell programming. This is perfectly allowed.

This is a forum about classical music, not about "Haskell programming."

Not knowing who "I.S." is, is allowed, but it's surprising.

imperfection

Am I the only one that thinks the 2nd movement of the 1st symphony is so beautiful that nothing compares to it?

Florestan

Quote from: imperfection on January 13, 2009, 08:01:20 PM
Am I the only one that thinks the 2nd movement of the 1st symphony is so beautiful that nothing compares to it?

Nay, we are two.:)
Every kind of music is good, except the boring kind. — Rossini

Wanderer

I think it's just beautiful.

Kullervo

The fourth movement is nice too, but the first two symphonies aren't my favorite Sibelius.

Tapio Dimitriyevich Shostakovich

Sym 1./2nd mvmt. I cannot get warm with it. I'm always thinking of Sinatra "I did it my way..." :(

Quote from: karlhenning on January 13, 2009, 10:50:22 AMNot knowing who "I.S." is, is allowed, but it's surprising.
In the real world (the world I know), knowing who Jean Sibelius is would be surprising. Not to talk about an old man on a b/w jpg picture named "IS..." and looking like Polands General Jaruzelsky.
I once asked at work who Anton Bruckner is. 0 out of 5 knew it. Null, Zero, Nada. High school graders.

karlhenning

Quote from: Wurstwasser on January 14, 2009, 06:29:56 AM
In the real world (the world I know) . . . .

Sure, but this forum is a specific subset of the real world. Everyone here has heard of Bruckner.

Tapio Dimitriyevich Shostakovich

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Come on, Karl. I doubt everybody here who sees the picture http://rogerbourland.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/ISmeetsJS.jpg and reads "ISmeetsJS" knows this is Igor Stravinsky. Personally I thought it's the blogger :) Well, now I realized the jpg's metadata hold all information.

QuoteBild-Orientierung:  1
Datum der Aufnahme:  2003:08:27 14:47:08
Bildbeschreibung:  PEJE03 19610910 JÄRVENPÄÄ, FINLAND: Russian-born composer Igor Stravinsky lays flowers on Finnish composer Jean Sibelius's grave at Sibelius's home, Ainola, in Järvenpää, Finland, on September 10, 1961. LEHTIKUVA / PERTTI JENYTIN /rl
Benutzte Software:  Adobe Photoshop 7.0
Erstellt hat das Bild:  Pertti Jenytin

I can tell I know nothing about Igor Stravinsky except the names of a few works. I know nothing about 898798 other composers, I know a few things about maybe 50. And there are a lot others than IS to explore first.

Mark G. Simon

Quote from: Wurstwasser on January 14, 2009, 11:53:06 AM

I can tell I know nothing about Igor Stravinsky except the names of a few works. I know nothing about 898798 other composers, I know a few things about maybe 50. And there are a lot others than IS to explore first.

Once you do explore IS, you'll wish you had tried him much earlier.

DavidRoss

Quote from: Mark G. Simon on January 17, 2009, 11:12:43 AM
Once you do explore IS, you'll wish you had tried him much earlier.
Indeed!  Stravinsky is not just one among 898,798, but one of the very few most prolifically inventive, influential, and masterful composers to grace our world with music.  You might start with his century-defining ballet, The Rite of Spring.  Any of Boulez's discs will do, or Solti's powerhouse CSO recording, or you might go with Abbado's bargain twofer featuring all of the famed early ballets.  But this is a thread about JS, so enough said on little Igor's account.

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karlhenning


Tapio Dimitriyevich Shostakovich

Le Sacre du printemps? Yes, one day I'll listen to it :)

Wanderer

An excellent musicweb review of the five first volumes of the ongoing BIS Sibelius edition.

John Copeland

jlaurson's post below highlighting the many Sibelius cycles out there.  I am wondering why the Ashkenazy is more expensive than the Maazel, as it's the Maazel VPO big sound of Sibelius everyone seems to connect to...however, I like the pricing, having many of these sets myself, I would still pay more for Ashkenazys take on Sibelius than Maazels.  Like I say, Maazel brings a much bigger orchestral sound to the works, and fine attention to detail, but still for me there is something in Ashkenazys quicker but cooler take  - there is more of a 'searing' atmosphere to it's icy urgency.

Dax

Having newly discovered this thread and its beguiling title, I'm disappointed to find no mention of The lonely ski trail.

ChamberNut

I am really enjoying Sibelius' Symphony No. 7 in C

Is it just me - it reminds me a lot of Strauss' Eine Alpensinfonie?

Tapio Dimitriyevich Shostakovich

Quote from: Dax on February 01, 2009, 11:02:36 PMHaving newly discovered this thread and its beguiling title, I'm disappointed to find no mention of The lonely ski trail.
IIRC (CD not available) it's one track e.g. on the BIS Wood Nymph CD, with a narrator? Oh well, it's a piece I always skipped because of the talking. I don't understand finnish additionally...

jlaurson

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Quote from: ChamberNut on February 02, 2009, 04:05:02 AM
I am really enjoying Sibelius' Symphony No. 7 in C

Is it just me - it reminds me a lot of Strauss' Eine Alpensinfonie?

Hmm... I enjoy it, too, and did so in performance a few days ago (Harding, BRSO) when it was coupled with Strauss' "Tod & Verklaerung". But "Alpensinfonie"?? Harding was more earthy (lots of greens and browns) and 'continental' than 'northern lights' and 'pale snow'... , but Aplensinfonie I did not hear.

Just went back to Bernstein's 4th with the NYPhil and found it an astounding (if not necessarily excellent) recording. It never really becomes a symphony... but only individual, chamber-music like, voices that just hint at the possibility of a symphony. Strange and beguiling.

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