sorry, i'll cancel this

[Madiel]

My point is that you might feel free to ignore a poll you don't like. No one in this forum is obligated to read and react upon all posts, except of course the moderators.

Ah. I see. The acceptable options are to be positive or not respond. Of course I'm free to ignore, but you WANT me to ignore. There's a difference.

This is, of course, exactly how some really truly foul things develop. Not to say that this is truly foul, but the basic idea that anybody saying something negative is killing the vibe is a key factor in a lot of cultish thinking.

Has it occurred to you that I might actually like the claimed IDEA behind the poll, but then react negatively to just how far removed the reality was from that?

I ignore lots of posts. The reasons for not ignoring this thread are my interest in the topic, the massive gap between the claim and the reality, and also the fact that this same person has tried this same thing 3 or 4 times and simply refuses to take on any feedback from anyone. The most likely reason he doesn't take on any feedback is because in truth this is for his own benefit and not anybody else's.

Now, I didn't shut down the poll. I didn't even demand he shut down the poll. Among the posts that people are free to ignore are my critiques of the poll. ** But this is the basic problem with telling people to ignore things.

**And in fact I said I was ignoring it from here on in. It so happened this was at pretty much the exact same time that coffee announced cancellation.

[Christo]

What a strange thread this is! 

+1

[ritter]

[prémont]

Has it occurred to you that I might actually like the claimed IDEA behind the poll, but then react negatively to just how far removed the reality was from that?

Maybe, but this does not change the fact that some responses to Coffee's posts made him feel unwelcome in our forum, which led to his departure.

If posters are not actively provocative, I find it regrettable that others provoke them, resulting in strange discussions and often causing the poster to leave GMG. This is why I believe patience is needed, even if the said poster's efforts were more or less futile.

[Madiel]

Maybe, but this does not change the fact that some responses to Coffee's posts made him feel unwelcome in our forum, which led to his departure.

If posters are not actively provocative, I find it regrettable that others provoke them, resulting in strange discussions and often causing the poster to leave GMG. This is why I believe patience is needed, even if the said poster's efforts were more or less futile.

Given he's "departed" about 4 times now, and keeps returning (with almost no other participation), I don't think him leaving is an issue.

Other people leaving is a greater issue.

[Madiel]

You have to read posts, I know, but you needn't make such helpful ones.

No need to reply.

Bye.

[prémont]

Given he's "departed" about 4 times now, and keeps returning (with almost no other participation), I don't think him leaving is an issue.

I don't particularly think of some posters which for unknown reasons come and go regularly. I don't understand such a behavior, but this is not my business.

Other people leaving is a greater issue.

Indeed, but maybe this problem is indirectly related to the problem I mentioned in my former post.

[ritter]

You have to read posts, I know, but you needn't make such helpful ones.

No need to reply.

Bye.

O ciel, che noia!

[Mandryka]

Humans exhibit online territorial behavior by claiming and defending spaces, resources, and relationships, often through assertive posts, blocking, or engaging in online "squats" or "claiming" of certain topics or groups.

Here's a more detailed breakdown of how humans manifest territorial behavior online:

Claiming online spaces:
Individuals may "claim" specific online spaces, such as a particular online forum, group, or social media account, by actively participating and engaging with content related to that space.

Protecting online resources:
Online territorial behavior can involve protecting access to resources like information, tools, or connections, often by blocking or restricting access to those who are perceived as "intruders" or threats.

Defending relationships:
Individuals may exhibit territorial behavior to protect their online relationships, such as by blocking or unfriending individuals who are perceived as a threat to their friendships or romantic relationships.

Assertive posts and comments:
Online territorial behavior can manifest as assertive posts or comments that aim to establish dominance or control over a particular topic or discussion.

"Squatting" or "Claiming" online:
Some individuals engage in "squatting" or "claiming" online by repeatedly posting or engaging with content related to a specific topic or group, effectively establishing a presence and potentially deterring others from engaging in the same space.

Blocking or unfriending:
Another common form of online territorial behavior is blocking or unfriending individuals who are perceived as a threat or who are not aligned with the user's online group or community.

Dominance and Hierarchy:
Online territorial behavior can also be used to establish dominance or a hierarchy within a group or community, with certain individuals or groups being perceived as having more authority or influence.

[AnotherSpin]

Humans exhibit online territorial behavior by claiming and defending spaces, resources, and relationships, often through assertive posts, blocking, or engaging in online "squats" or "claiming" of certain topics or groups.

Here's a more detailed breakdown of how humans manifest territorial behavior online:

Claiming online spaces:
Individuals may "claim" specific online spaces, such as a particular online forum, group, or social media account, by actively participating and engaging with content related to that space.

Protecting online resources:
Online territorial behavior can involve protecting access to resources like information, tools, or connections, often by blocking or restricting access to those who are perceived as "intruders" or threats.

Defending relationships:
Individuals may exhibit territorial behavior to protect their online relationships, such as by blocking or unfriending individuals who are perceived as a threat to their friendships or romantic relationships.

Assertive posts and comments:
Online territorial behavior can manifest as assertive posts or comments that aim to establish dominance or control over a particular topic or discussion.

"Squatting" or "Claiming" online:
Some individuals engage in "squatting" or "claiming" online by repeatedly posting or engaging with content related to a specific topic or group, effectively establishing a presence and potentially deterring others from engaging in the same space.

Blocking or unfriending:
Another common form of online territorial behavior is blocking or unfriending individuals who are perceived as a threat or who are not aligned with the user's online group or community.

Dominance and Hierarchy:
Online territorial behavior can also be used to establish dominance or a hierarchy within a group or community, with certain individuals or groups being perceived as having more authority or influence.

Right then. These kinds of mechanisms are often signs of emotional immaturity — and, one might add, a touch of those rather dramatic coping habits we'd usually call pathological.

[DavidW]

I agree with Madiel and Florestan's critique. But at the same time, when Coffee was clearly communicating emotional discomfort, most would stop.

But, at the same time, it is not like Coffee was a great contributor to the forum, and they also could have just walked away from the exchange.

I think it is time to stop castigating Madiel and Florestan. That is just my two cents.